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the8thdigidestined Digimon is coming back! from Odaiba *Wii U Handle: Lyokonerd* Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#61301: Oct 16th 2014 at 12:38:19 AM

Still hoping for DLC characters.

I feel like the Wii U could handle so many more characters. The least they could do is bring back Ice Climbers!

I don't like this lack of information either with the release date fast approaching. It's almost feeling like this Smash game won't take full advantage of the Wii U's potential because Sakurai worked on two games.

Although I thought the same of the 3DS when there was lack of information, only to realize there's tons of secrets and the end product is quite satisfying.

Although Sakurai could always just delay some more if he felt the end product wasn't good enough. Lord knows how much he delayed Brawl.

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#61302: Oct 16th 2014 at 12:54:39 AM

Speaking of obligatory roster spoilers, it looks like there's one less character to be concerned about.

I disagree; That Dr Mario thing could just as easily have been in the game if it was only Mario in SSB and not Dr Mario.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#61303: Oct 16th 2014 at 5:45:14 AM

Nothing in today's Miiverse pic reveals anything about a character. In fact, saying that it does is a bigger hint about who it is than anything else. So no, Dr. Mario was not revealed and must remain behind tags.

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#61304: Oct 16th 2014 at 6:19:39 AM

Someone mention Mii Fighters? B Ecuase I got a Mii Fighter of Scott, President of Dominos Pizza.

Are explosions science?
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#61305: Oct 16th 2014 at 7:14:47 AM

I'm finally watching that Open Tournament, and while it was fun at times, I have to say I'm with the people who have little hope for the competitive future of this game unless they patch it. Watching Yoshi vs. Rosaluma was almost as frustrating as being in the situation myself. Zoning is everything in this game and defensive options are too powerful. The likes of Rosaluma are gonna dominate and the game's gonna turn into nothing but camping.

I mean, like, please prove me wrong by all means, but I have yet to hear any counter-arguments.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#61306: Oct 16th 2014 at 7:48:25 AM

[up]It's a damn shame, really. The only game that has people to play against, and the only one that pays at least some attention to character balance, is the one that I'll get ridiculed for playing because Sakurai's making the same mistakes as he did with Brawl.

What a hypocrite.

edited 16th Oct '14 7:51:59 AM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#61307: Oct 16th 2014 at 7:48:25 AM

Some people seem to not realize that walking speed is different from running speed, and so they're wondering why Sonic wasn't mentioned in that Miiverse post.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#61308: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:12:40 AM

[up][up]

Which game is that?

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#61310: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:21:27 AM

[up][up]4, of course.

edited 16th Oct '14 8:21:49 AM by BaffleBlend

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61311: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:22:31 AM

Maybe we'll get a trailer for Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt as well. Good to hear, even if it's more of a hint than outright saying it's happening.

I want more information, courses, etc. on the Wii U version.

Shadow?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#61312: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:23:27 AM

Oh. I thought it was something specific, like "4 with custom moves active", or "4 on something other than Final Destination".

I'm coming to strongly dislike Final Destination, actually. Give me Battlefield or Arena Ferox any day.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#61313: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:25:27 AM

so wait, who's the hypocrite and why?

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#61314: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:27:21 AM

[up][up]Omega Stages are at least a step in the right direction. But until knockback is nerfed and blast zones are reduced, 4 looks like it's dead within the first year.

[up]Sakurai, who recently came out and said that a focus on overly defensive play is "not interesting or fun", but look where we are now.

edited 16th Oct '14 8:30:04 AM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#61315: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:28:21 AM

[up][up]Sakurai, for failing to make 4 as competitively viable as he said he was trying to make it. Keep in mind that some still hold a grudge against him for intentionally making Brawl into an anti-competitive game.

edited 16th Oct '14 8:28:34 AM by Customer

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#61316: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:28:31 AM

I hope Master Side and Crazy Side are Master Orders and Crazy Orders in the US version. Because that would probably mean good things for the other hidden voice clips, like Smash World and Boss Battles.

Edit:

And here's me, still trying to figure out how to use a projectile-heavy character without getting punched in the face whenever I wind up to shoot something.

edited 16th Oct '14 8:31:12 AM by Enlong

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#61317: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:32:51 AM

thats not really hypocrisy. someone does not suddenly become a hypocrite because they failed to do something they at least tried to do. thats just called failure.

if he had intentionally made it that way then maybe, but i dont really see anything to suggest he intentionally made it a heavily defensive game.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#61318: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:34:40 AM

It's still way to early to tell anything about the meta game. Defensive play may be powerful now but give it until at least the Wii U version is out before making any major calls. The meta game can change in the blink of an eye.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#61319: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:34:54 AM

4 is overly defensive? Brawl is, but 4? Felt like a strong mix of both to me. You could KO at low percentages enough, combo heavily...

Shadow?
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#61320: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:44:21 AM

[up]Lasting at over 200% is the norm, and vectoring makes combos now nonexistent against anyone moderately skilled.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#61321: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:44:44 AM

Gee people, the game has only been out for less than two weeks, give the meta some time and things may change. I never felt like the game was very defensive, hell, a lot of time I've been mercilessly beaten down by people online. It take a while to KO, yes, but it's not ridiculously long, I've KO'd people at 92% with Greninja before and he doesn't have the highest knockback on his moves.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#61322: Oct 16th 2014 at 8:51:17 AM

Right. This game just seems to have a different kind of meta than the earlier ones and I feel we need to wait longer to see what exactly it turns into. It hasn't even been a month yet... And people seem to be making snap judgments due to Brawl being considered a disappointment (meta-wise) and Sakurai's statements that he was attempting to appeal a little to that demographic with 4.

edited 16th Oct '14 8:54:54 AM by Customer

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#61323: Oct 16th 2014 at 9:06:23 AM

I just said that.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#61325: Oct 16th 2014 at 9:12:51 AM

Yeah, I am really hoping we collectively turn out to be oh so wrong.

I don't want to have to go back to P:M and P:M only. It already feels heavily outdated, in no small part thanks to online play being shut down. And I can't get Wiimmfi to work.

But at the same time, I have to remain cynical. No use spending time getting good at something that there's a sizeable chance I'll be ridiculed for in the future.

edited 16th Oct '14 9:13:20 AM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer

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