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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#60876: Oct 11th 2014 at 12:56:23 PM

Nah, he's not a clone of Mario. He just turns his up smash into a Shoryuken and his nair into a Tatsu. His special moves are more or less intact. The changes were a bit gratuitous though.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#60877: Oct 11th 2014 at 12:56:48 PM

To be fair, Brawl's highly defensive play makes Lucario able to survive longer. In the other games, it's easier to KO at lower percentages. That means his gimmick is weakened in that case. So them removing it and giving him a new gimmick to make him more viable is a logical move. Him being more like Ryu is not the move I think was good, but at least the attempt is far nicer than making him gimmick really non-viable.

edited 11th Oct '14 12:59:21 PM by Irene

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#60878: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:00:30 PM

I will go on record and say I do like the magic series idea. It's just making him an obligatory Shotoclone might've been a bit too far with the Fighting reference.

MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#60879: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:00:48 PM

Was pretty gratuitous though.

Although considering Ganondorf's Flame Choke is basically Kyo and Iori's flame grab from King Of Fighters I'd lol if in the next update he now plays like Iori Yagami.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#60880: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:08:31 PM

Here's the voting thread. The list of likely candidates at the moment is in the OP.

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MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#60881: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:11:07 PM

So no Rundas but we could get Dark Samus AKA "Most likely to be a Samus clone"

hmmmmm.

Guess I'd vote Ashley and the Black Shadow-Ganondorf package.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#60882: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:11:36 PM

Pittoo doesn't even have different attack properties. Falco actually had a different playstyle from his source. I don't like the aesthetics either, but they're not comparable.

Arrows and Electrodash Arm have different attack properties from their counterparts. There's also the Final Smash, but I guess that one don't count?

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MightyKombat I am he as you are he as you are me and we are a from in mai mouffff (Ten years in the joint)
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#60883: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:14:04 PM

Dark Pit's FS is exactly the same as Zelda and Sheik's tho.

Also wasn't Dark Pit mentioned in a post of the day as well?

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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#60884: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:16:40 PM

Dark Samus actually possesses different basic properties and a different fighting style from Samus, being the Metroid Prime and all.

If Metroid gets a fourth character (hahaha never gonna happen), that would be my pick.

Looking at the poll, it's kinda painful to see Lyn getting so much support. At least Ridley's getting a lot of it. (Seriously, Ridley alone would be enough to fully convince me to get Project M.)

edited 11th Oct '14 1:20:56 PM by RavenKingSage

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#60885: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:16:54 PM

No, no he was not.

Ganondorf has. His toon variant also got shown, but that doesn't mean much. Ness was shown in two separate pictures. His gameplay and a silly plushie in the same picture as Toon Ganondorf.

Those and Lucina are the only hidden characters shown or spoken of in a Pic of the Day.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#60886: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:17:41 PM

[up][up][up][up] Aside from those two special moves, all other Attack properties, and physical properties such as his speed, jump height, hitboxes, and weight, are identical. The difference those two moves make are negligible.

edited 11th Oct '14 1:18:13 PM by BaffleBlend

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#60887: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:18:29 PM

[up][up][up][up] It is, but it's true to it's purpose from it's origin game. Being a sniper weapon packed with power.

[up] The arrows are still a good part of the gameplay of both. Also, because their Side Specials launch the opponents differently, the potential for different follow ups will be there.

edited 11th Oct '14 1:21:14 PM by Folt

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#60888: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:18:54 PM

[up][up] I swear I saw pics of him and everything. Mostly on Tumblr though but they had teh console note things in the corner like in most official shots.

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GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#60889: Oct 11th 2014 at 1:59:30 PM

Something greatly amuses me about how Luigi's FS sends foes flying at such high speeds with a simple 'POP' sound upon being ejected from the Poltergust.

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drfurball Since: Jan, 2001
#60890: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:11:17 PM

I haven't played Project M myself, but I've seen videos, and while I'm mostly indifferent to it as a whole, I friggin' love how they revamped Wario.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#60891: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:13:44 PM

That was one of my biggest complaints. They took away his bike.

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Nexus Since: Jan, 2001
#60892: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:15:19 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]OK, I've been playing as Dark Pit alot, and I swear there's more differences between him and Pit than just those two specials and his FS. For starters, he feels faster and more combo-oriented to me.

edited 11th Oct '14 2:15:48 PM by Nexus

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#60893: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:18:00 PM

a vision

[up] No, he's been extensively analyzed and measured. Everything is the same.

edited 11th Oct '14 2:18:51 PM by BaffleBlend

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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#60894: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:18:27 PM

[up][up]It's just you. People ran the numbers, and they are identical in terms of attributes and damage output.

edited 11th Oct '14 2:18:38 PM by RavenKingSage

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#60895: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:22:29 PM

@Raven: Believe me, there are plenty of characters from Fire Emblem I want over Lyn (one of whom happens to be a C-tier candidate!), but as far as Project M is concerned she's the most practical since A: she's the poster child for FE 7 since everyone hates Eliwood, and B: she already has a model in-game to work with, cutting out a big part of potential development. That last point is a huge factor for this thing, so just keep that in mind.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#60896: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:25:50 PM

I thought for sure you'd get behind Hector, but it makes sense that you would support Lyn now that you brought up the model thing.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#60897: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:26:26 PM

actually the poster child of fe7 would probably be hector, as he's the most popular lord in the game.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#60898: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:27:53 PM

[up]As much as I hate to say it, Lyn probably is the poster kid for 7. First Lord in the game and all that. Also she probably is also the most popular Lord, with Hector closely behind. She's basically the western Marth.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#60899: Oct 11th 2014 at 2:32:16 PM

well that makes my day =I

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#60900: Oct 11th 2014 at 3:02:31 PM

I think the Project M team talked about preferring to only make those who had models easily available in the game. Namely because making their own model is extremely difficult. Taking an existing one is easier. Costumes are different.

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