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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#59301: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:22:30 PM

I wasn't being rude. If you take it that way that's your own fault. Smash Bros is meant to be fun, not have a bunch of people huddle up and decide which stage can be played on because some dicks like to camp.

Playing against those dicks is NOT fun. And they're common. Especially in casual play.

I turned competitive because I wasn't having fun in casual play.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:24:29 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#59302: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:22:34 PM

I heard that the approved stage list for 64 in Japanese tournaments is... one stage. Just something to think about.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
Blueblur21 Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#59303: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:25:03 PM

I hate playing against dicks just as much as the next guy, but I don't go so far as to control how people should play the game just so it's 'fair' It's going to be unfair regardless because everyone plays differently.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#59304: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:26:25 PM

[up]We don't control you. You don't have to play by our rules. We won't send the Fox Squad and force you to wavedash or something like that.

And different playstyles have nothing to do with fairness. If I get totally thrashed by someone more skilled than me, it's fair and I've lost with dignity. If a bob-mob spawns into my attack and my opponent hits a Smash Ball with the Cracker Launcher that spawned at their feet, I feel cheated.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:28:33 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#59305: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:26:31 PM

[up][up] And I don't force people to play by those rules. By participating in a tournament with those rules, the people playing are agreeing to them. We're talking about what those rules could be for the people who choose to play by them.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:27:02 PM by BloatedCreeper

I'm the guy who knows how to make games but doesn't. 3DS FC: 2878-9776-7579
Blueblur21 Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#59306: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:28:13 PM

[up] Exactly. Which is why I will never play in a tournament and I will never take Smash as a competitive fighting game.

And again, I have never pushed my opinions on anybody as fact. If you want to see it that way, you're free to.

BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#59307: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:30:36 PM

[up] Then why do you need to express your hatred towards it? If you don't care for the rules, quit telling everyone about how stupid they are when you don't even bother to try or use them. You're being extremely closed-minded.

I'm the guy who knows how to make games but doesn't. 3DS FC: 2878-9776-7579
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#59308: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:30:37 PM

[up][up]Your loss, frankly. But that's just my opinion.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:31:51 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#59309: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:32:59 PM

So, probably late to the party, but I just found out that the US commercials for Smash 3DS are out. The Little Mac one is probably my favorite. [lol] Here are the other two.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:33:27 PM by Customer

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#59310: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:33:10 PM

I try to open my horizons as much as possible when playing, I like trying new things to do in games so it becomes less repetitive each time I play. I would play both casual and competitive, however I never got into the competitive scene, maybe I'll do that with 4 once it's released just to get a feel for it.

Blueblur21 Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#59311: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:33:59 PM

I've BEEN in tourneys. And the limited rules and regulations pissed me off because everyone else was so damn picky about what we could do. And NO, it wasn't to make it fair or balanced. Ban a stage? Fine. Mocking me because I use Sonic? Not fine. Doing it the whole FUCKING MATCH? Even worse. Banning Smash Balls only to use them anyway because 'They're so kewl lolz!'

Fuck that shit. It turned me off from ever playing another tourney again.

And to top it off those fuckers kicked me out after I won because I kicked their asses. Nevermind played fairly.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:35:27 PM by Blueblur21

BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#59312: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:35:38 PM

[up] Sounds like you just played with a bunch of dicks. Please stop making generalizations about everyone who plays competitively.

I'm the guy who knows how to make games but doesn't. 3DS FC: 2878-9776-7579
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#59313: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:36:54 PM

Those commercials are the best thing I've seen ever.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#59314: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:38:16 PM

[up][up][up]Mocked you for picking a character and broke their own rules? And then being sore losers? That doesn't sound like any tournament I'd care about.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:38:57 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#59315: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:38:20 PM

Honestly, the tourney scene is kinda strange with smash.

The only ban I agreed with in brawl was Meta Knight.

Because my school's game club had an exhibition match where it was three players vs one meta knight player, and Meta Knight won. Not because the meta knight player was so much better, but because "Lol flight," followed closely by "Lol edge guarding" and "Lol Mach Tornado"

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#59316: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:39:40 PM

I once participated in a tourney. Specifically, Project M in Apex 2014. I lost the first match, using Ganondorf and Wolf, only managing to take off two of my opponent's lives during one round. Going to that tournament was likely my single great video game-related accomplishment.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#59317: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:43:32 PM

I just don't know where people find the time to get good enough at these games.

I barely have enough to be mediocre.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#59318: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:46:48 PM

My main problem with Smash as a competitive game is that it was never really meant to be one, and this is something that bleeds into every aspect of competitive smash. you have to disable significant portions of the game, certain characters are clearly superior to others, etc. it just has a tourney scene because people will make anything competitive. i'm not telling people how to play or how to enjoy smash, i just think some things make more sense to take competitively than others.

my general philosophy is "try to win, but also dick around as much as possible by picking gimmicky stages and having items on".

edited 26th Sep '14 4:47:42 PM by wehrmacht

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#59319: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:46:54 PM

Frankly, it upsets me when people accuse me of being a "Stop Having Fun" Guys.

I don't like the "it's a party game, get the fuck over it" mentality. Party games are Finagle's Law incarnate when I play them. Even when it's all humans, the computer somehow still manages to be a cheating bastard. I'm left absolutely helpless because the RNG happened to toggle a 1 instead of a 0. And excuse me if I don't enjoy that.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:50:23 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#59320: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:48:34 PM

[up][up][up]Generally, they either know how to manage their time, actually have a lot of time on their hands, or are fast learners. Everyone learns at a different pace, which is why I'm certain that I'll never be good enough to be considered at the competitive level. At least with Smash.

That may change with this installment, but I doubt it...

edited 26th Sep '14 4:48:51 PM by Customer

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#59321: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:49:26 PM

Have your own fun and then you'll truly be Numbah One.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#59322: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:51:05 PM

[up][up]Well, there are tips during every loading screens that are genuinely helpful.

And For Glory offers good practice. Losses are healthy — you can start to see patterns in yourself and eradicate them.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:52:07 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#59323: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:52:19 PM

Doesn't really help me develop the manual dexterity to do stuff like wavedashing, or even vaguely remember what button combinations do what for which character.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#59324: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:52:36 PM

[up][up] That makes me think of a question I had, does this game have replays?

edited 26th Sep '14 4:52:42 PM by BloatedCreeper

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#59325: Sep 26th 2014 at 4:53:13 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, but they seem to be random. If only there was a place on the menu that let you see every tip, or at least the ones you've seen so far.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:53:52 PM by doctrainAUM

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