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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#58426: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:10:33 PM

... Hmm.

Mega Man seems to suffer the Leon problem. He's a good character, but the AI seems to have absolutely no clue how to use him.

edited 19th Sep '14 6:11:02 PM by Pulse

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#58427: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:14:01 PM

It's kind of understandable, given how fundamentally different he is in a few ways to every other character.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#58428: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:26:26 PM

The S Flag is pretty difficult to use, you're just left way too open for attacks, but I guess it was kinda needed considering how useful it is. Also apparently Abomasnow can come out of Pokéballs, didn't know that one.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#58429: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:28:05 PM

@pheer: I'm playing it on the regular DS and so far I'm not having any trouble with it. The small screen isn't really noticeable to me unless I play my girlfriend's 3DS XL.

I've been solely playing Mega Man and working my way up the CPU rank for Mario. So far I think I've got Mega down enough to regularly KO a mid-level Mario (below 8/9) without too much hassle. I still have trouble using his dair though.

And yeah, I have trouble with Pikachu the most out of the demo's characters. It probably doesn't help that I didn't like how he felt in Brawl, which he feels the most similar to.

On a different note, I really love the items in this game. The Cucco is hilarious, even when I'm the one that accidentally angered it. Dark Samus and Ghirahim are also amazing Assists.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#58430: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:31:49 PM

Oh, hey, that's neat- The Villager's Balloon Trip helmet and balloons change color based on the player's number, so P1 always has red and COM players always have gray, regardless of palette choices.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#58431: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:59:48 PM

Here's an idea.

Pocket an S Flag. Always have it ready for a lull in the fight.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#58432: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:01:41 PM

What is Villager's "plant a tree" move supposed to do?

Does it grow eventually, or what?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#58433: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:01:43 PM

What does the S Flag do again?

I could add it to the list of Obvious-unobvious strategies to use when playing as Villager.

[up]Press Down B again to water it...then again to Chop it down when ready.

edited 19th Sep '14 7:02:27 PM by randomness4

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#58434: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:03:06 PM

Gives you either a point or extra life, depending on which mode you play.

I'm wondering if you can pocket it, as I can see that being extremely abuseable.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#58435: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:05:16 PM

[up][up] When you grab it, using it on the ground has you go into a pose for a while. If you use it, uninterrupted, for the whole duration, you get a point (in Time mode) or a Stock (in Stock mode). Problem is, the pose makes you immobile, and getting hit once makes you drop it.

Villager can pocket it, and wait for the right moment while still hving his A moves.

[up][up][up] First use plants a seed. Second use pulls out a watering can. If used on opponents, it pushes back without damaging, and if used on the sapling, the tree grows. 3rd and following uses is an axe. The axe deals nice damage and is quick. Hitting the tree will notch that side. Hitting a side twice will fell the tree, which hits very heavily.

So, every segment of the attack, except for the seed, has another funciton.

edited 19th Sep '14 7:05:52 PM by Enlong

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GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HOT DOG
#58436: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:14:45 PM

Every time I think about Pocket and the sneakiness potential, I can't help but giggle. Ahem, i-in a manly way, of course.

Once I get the game I am so remapping Grab to Y, and of course disabling tapping Up to jump.

[up]Don't forget that the tree can launch people hilariously upward while it grows up.

edited 19th Sep '14 7:16:03 PM by GreatT

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#58437: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:27:47 PM

[nja]

edited 19th Sep '14 7:28:21 PM by BaffleBlend

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#58438: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:36:46 PM

... Man, playing as Villager is reminding me just how miserably behind my copy of New Leaf is.

... Like, it's still December of last year there.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#58439: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:37:29 PM

The Killager is way to fun to play as.

Pocketing things always feels so satisfying.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#58440: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:39:25 PM

I really love how the announcer seems to be trying to say "Villager" in the most intimidating way possible. Like, he uses the same intonation that was used for Ganondorf in Brawl.

"We're home, Chewie."
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#58441: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:42:56 PM

Same.evil grin

It sounds like he is announcing the deaths of all the other players about to face Villager.

MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#58442: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:08:07 PM

My impressions from the demo:

  • Link has a lot of things going for him this time. His shield means anyone that relies on projectiles is gonna have a harder time against him since he can just walk forward and let his shield block everything. The second hit of his down smash has completely horizontal knockback, making it an excellent KO move and edge guard against anyone approaching from above. His dash attack is strong enough to KO at high percentages, all of his projectiles are useful for edge guarding, and his tether recovery can make edge guarding him difficult for some characters.

  • Mega Man's many projectiles allow him stand up to most characters, but he'll have a hard time against anyone that can reflect projectiles, considering only 6 out of 12 of his A attacksnote  aren't projectiles, which can make approaching and damaging them very difficult.

edited 19th Sep '14 8:14:09 PM by MJTrooper

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#58443: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:27:07 PM

Something I just have to point out, as well- Link's Forward Smash can land both hits now, except at very high %.

edited 19th Sep '14 8:30:07 PM by Pulse

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#58444: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:34:43 PM

Villager's recovery is insane.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#58445: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:36:17 PM

But those balloons are oh-so-poppable!

Balloon Trip is slow, even if it covers a lot of distance. Lloid Rocket has been a lot harder to counter as far as Villager's recovery goes- But knock them downwards and you're golden.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#58446: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:38:03 PM

Do you have to pop one at a time? I forget. I think that might play a role in how easy it is to stop hir recovery.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#58447: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:44:13 PM

Considering Mega Man also has his down-tilt which attacks and slides forward, as well as a fairly decent dash attack in Top Spin, I think he'll be okay.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#58448: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:49:47 PM

Villager's recovery is like R.O.B.'s and Pit's from Brawl.

It'll last a long time if you keep pressing the button as soon as you activate it...but if you don't and fall before tapping the button, it pretty much stutters and by the time you start going up it runs out.

[up][up]Yes...pop em' 1 at a time.

edited 19th Sep '14 8:51:01 PM by randomness4

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#58450: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:59:41 PM

Trying to download the demo on my 3DS now. Having a bit of trouble with errors...

Also looking through the e-shop has its own temptations XD For instance I came across Ocarina of Time and the original Castlevania in addition to the newer Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game.


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