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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#57976: Sep 15th 2014 at 9:46:27 AM

There is a POTD.

It's a menu.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#57977: Sep 15th 2014 at 9:51:18 AM

That POTD is from last week's Friday.

Only sometimes posts
beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#57979: Sep 15th 2014 at 9:59:26 AM

... Darn, what a late update. I remember checking the site somewhere 12 a.m. in my time and no new pictures.

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MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#57980: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:02:11 AM

I remember how Nintendo released a patch for Mario Kart 7 to fix an exploit people were using to take a massive shortcut in Maka Wuhu.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#57981: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:03:11 AM

It was 7:30 AM my time. As I said before, my only issue is that it's yet another Menu, and not for the Wii U version, even, update.

We know of Conquest mode already from earlier pictures, so it's kind of a weak one. It had some new information too, so it wasn't filler, at least.

Shadow?
MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#57982: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:14:04 AM

Remember, this is Masahiro Sakurai we're talking about here.

Blueblur21 Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#57983: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:16:24 AM

So.. with the 3DS lines, what does that do exactly?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#57984: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:16:26 AM

It was a Holiday. If it weren't for that, we'd have gotten it way earlier, but the same thing. That's the only reason it was late.

Why he didn't decide to give a slightly different update to note the Wii U is a different story however. Maybe he was a bit drunk.

Either way, I think it's somewhat obvious by now some thought this wasn't worth staying up for, that's all.

I do like the information regardless. But I also like DLC is going on(since new modes were confirmed as DLC period, well...).

Shadow?
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#57985: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:27:39 AM

Why do people insist on referring to ukemi as "teching"?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#57986: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:28:28 AM

Because that's the term the competitive community has been using for a very long time. I heard "teching" long before I heard "ukemi."

edited 15th Sep '14 10:28:44 AM by Zelenal

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#57987: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:29:57 AM

That strikes me as sort of silly. What does the word "tech" have to do with ukemi?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#57988: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:32:13 AM

Nobody knows. It's a "technique", but it's a weird name for a Ukemi(which is even the official name too as used back on the Japanese 64 site).

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CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#57989: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:33:41 AM

Just found out that my local GAME store is doing a midnight launch for this. Hell yes mother fuckers grin

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57990: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:36:25 AM

Different games have different jargon for different things (I know people who interchangeably use ukemi for more traditional fighters and tech for Smash, because tech is the jargon for Smash specifically). Hell, different people have different jargon for different things (I still use "ghost" for invincibility frames, sometimes). Their origins are probably very vague.

For all we know, it could come down to people preferring to use an English term over a Japanese one, especially if the term was started by people who didn't know the Japanese term. And as Irene said, it could initially have been short of "technique," or maybe "technical."

edited 15th Sep '14 10:40:06 AM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#57991: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:39:06 AM

It's just that there's an official term for the technique in Smash Bros. The websites have referred to it as "ukemi", so I don't know why people continue to use a fanmade name over an official one.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57992: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:40:26 AM

Because jargon is typically created and/or continued by fans, at least when it comes to gaming.

edited 15th Sep '14 10:41:53 AM by KnownUnknown

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#57993: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:40:58 AM

Teching has been the term for the mechanic in fighting games since forever. I think one of the Street Fighter games started it and it just stuck.

And I'm pretty sure it's short for "Technical". That's what SFIV uses at any rate.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#57994: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:42:47 AM

Well, I'm just gonna keep supporting the term "ukemi". It's what I heard first, and sounds awesomer anyway. tongue

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#57995: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:46:42 AM

Yeah, well, the official 64 website referred to L-canceling as "smooth landing". You know how many fans call it that? That's right, almost none. Fans often prefer their own terms instead of what's official.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57996: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:47:11 AM

<does a brief search> That's pretty interesting: apparently techning was initially used for throw counters, which makes a bit of sense. The term probably got expanded in use, until it started being used for situations that require specific inputs at specific instants to prevent bad effects in general. It helps that Smash teching isn't quite how ukemi traditionally appears in fighting games.

It's still kind of fandom specific, though.

edited 15th Sep '14 10:49:33 AM by KnownUnknown

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#57997: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:47:13 AM

The word "tech" is borrowed from the competitive communities of other fighting games and traces its origin back to technical bonuses awarded in Capcom games for performing special maneuvers to escape grab attacks and get much less damage and more recovery time.

Blackyakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#57998: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:49:48 AM

Ukemi is very rarely used anyway.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57999: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:52:39 AM

Depends. The vast majority of people I know who play Namco fighters - and 3D fighters in general - very rigidly refer to it as ukemi (I hear it most often in regards to Soul Calibur, but then that's because I don't play Tekken as much). I only know a couple people who P 4 A, but the of the ones I do call it ukemi there - the same people are the ones who play Arcsys games, so they call it that there too (on the other hand, they still use "tech" when playing Smash). I've played Street Fighter for a long time but I actually don't recall what it's called there (I mostly just hear "roll" for it and Ko F - though now that I think about it, I think Kof players use "tech roll" to differentiate itself from regular rolls).

In Smash I never hear it (it's always teching no matter who I'm talking to), but it doesn't actually surprise me that that's what it's called on the website - I would assume the Japanese devs would refer to it by a Japanese term, and I don't see any reason why the translators would change a term like that.

edited 15th Sep '14 11:01:27 AM by KnownUnknown

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#58000: Sep 15th 2014 at 11:09:35 AM

Even English-speaking Judo practitioners call the technique of transferring part of their momentum from a fall into a roll a Ukemi, though.

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