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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#57776: Sep 13th 2014 at 12:57:30 PM

He shouldn't be able to do that though. That's too OP.

It's a Final Smash. Balance gets thrown out the window by even turning that item on.

edited 13th Sep '14 12:59:16 PM by BaffleBlend

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#57777: Sep 13th 2014 at 12:59:32 PM

...moving on

Yeah, looks like he simply blocked the beam or something, raher than actually pocketing it. Note the "Aw well, I didn't grab anything" animation on Villager.

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#57778: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:00:26 PM

Villager's pocket ability isn't a final smash.

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#57779: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:01:35 PM

Yeah, note his little shrug at the end.

That said, Villager's Final Smash is kinda bad, so perhaps he would've benefited from being able to use it tongue.

edited 13th Sep '14 1:02:06 PM by WackyPancake

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#57780: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:01:49 PM

So I had an idea.

If Snake isn't in the game, we can just make a Mii Fighter of him. Obviously won't be a perfect match and we'll still have lost all those beautiful explosives, but he'd be there in spirit.

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#57781: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:02:14 PM

It could work with a Brawler or Gunner Mii.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#57782: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:03:45 PM

[up][up][up][up]They were wondering if it could be used to exploit Final Smashes.

With that said, it seems to be just a matter of the light itself being counted as a(n otherwise useless) projectile. Kind of impressive how both TSs keep finding all sorts of bugs to screw themselves over with, though.

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edited 13th Sep '14 1:07:48 PM by Demonfly

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#57783: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:43:51 PM

Yeah, looks like the Pocket is a brief projectile-immune shield that pockets any valid projeciles or items. So, the Triforce-Slash beam is a projectile, but isn't on Pocket's list, so it gets blocked but not stolen. I wonder if it could block Light Arrow. Probably not, though. That's more of a beam than a single projectile.

edited 13th Sep '14 1:44:13 PM by Enlong

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#57784: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:47:38 PM

Someone needs to try that with Mario Finale. That seems like something you could throw back.

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#57785: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:49:37 PM

I doubt it'd work. Mario Finale is like, a whole bunch of hits. I think it only works on Triforce Slash because the initiating beam is one solitary hit to confirm the move.

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#57786: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:50:11 PM

What I think's going on is that Villager was just outside of the range of Triforce Slash so it made it look like he pocketed it.

If only because that's broken as FUCK otherwise.

edited 13th Sep '14 1:50:40 PM by Zelenal

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#57787: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:52:08 PM

No, the hitstun and what seems to be the effect is still there.

And while I can't say the same for his counterpart, Link's FS in Brawl covered much more ground than that.

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#57788: Sep 13th 2014 at 1:54:46 PM

The Range of Link's final smash is Not that short...he was right in front of Link.

If he was out of range, the screen wouldn't have frozen for that split second.

edited 13th Sep '14 1:55:38 PM by randomness4

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#57789: Sep 13th 2014 at 2:00:46 PM

I'm getting a better handle on the characters. Beaten level 9 CPU's with Pikachu (of course), Villager, and Mega Man.

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#57790: Sep 13th 2014 at 2:14:33 PM

I'm starting to like using Link and Pikachu in the demo.

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#57791: Sep 13th 2014 at 2:16:26 PM

Random really prefers Pikachu and I hate it. Only once have O ever gotten a Random opponent that wasn't Pikachu or Link.

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#57792: Sep 13th 2014 at 2:44:33 PM

Sorry for double posting, but here's something I just discovered; the Smash 4 theme reuses part of the Meteos theme. I listened to the Attract Mode Jingle on the Smash 3D demo and the Meteo Victory Jingle one right after the other and, yeah, they're really similar.

Fitting since Sakurai directed both.

edited 13th Sep '14 2:45:09 PM by BaffleBlend

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#57793: Sep 13th 2014 at 2:45:13 PM

I'm pretty sure Pocket just gave Villager armor there or something. His animation shows that he didn't actually pocket anything.

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#57794: Sep 13th 2014 at 2:56:08 PM

[up][up]Hm? The Attract Mode theme isn't the main theme. It's been in the series since Melee.

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#57795: Sep 13th 2014 at 4:09:48 PM

[up][up]So...does that mean Little Mac can charge up his punch/Ike can use Aether and negate Link's Final Smash?

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#57796: Sep 13th 2014 at 4:26:41 PM

Japan really knows how to make a line.

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#57797: Sep 13th 2014 at 4:42:30 PM

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#57798: Sep 13th 2014 at 4:43:30 PM

Its not that Villager was out of range or he pocketed it.

Its that Pocket has invincibility frames. So if you pocket just right you can cancel incoming Final Smashes.

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#57799: Sep 13th 2014 at 4:43:58 PM

@Fawful Crump: I meant the jingle when you're hovering over the program icon but haven't started the game yet. The one taken from the Smash 4 main theme.

edited 13th Sep '14 4:44:43 PM by BaffleBlend

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#57800: Sep 13th 2014 at 4:46:02 PM

[up][up]this is basically what I was trying to say earlier

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