The doc did make it look like Robin is reeeeally strong though. Though I wonder how effective his/her recovery will be.
Anyway, it looks like Greninja is Difficult, but Awesome, not that it's going to stop me, it's just going to make it all the more rewarding to main it.
@Robin being OP: I don't think he will be. I mean, I think I read before that he has high landing lag to balance him out.
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheerso...ike was like, the perfect noob-character, right? least, thats what i heard.
i certainly liked using him and it was particularly easy to spam aether to deal the pain to most characters besides fox or meta knight.
but uh...wasnt ike already fairly fast? did anything else change beyond making him faster in 4?
i see...
i mean yeah he was no marth and co or anything but they were fast characters.
ike was a mighty glacier that seemed fairly fast- like at least towards what could be considered a normal speed.
i dunno, im probably just biased because the only other heavy hitter i remember playing for any length of time is falcondorf.
Pics of Fierce Deity Link and Alph alts.
◊ Fire Rosalina also confirmed.

Maybe I'm just sick of everyone and their mother crying about every single newcomer being """OP""" even though they have no way of fucking knowing that.