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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#56701: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:49:24 AM

It still kinda bugs me how Yoshi is lodged in the Mario section. Hopefully they change that for the final release.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#56702: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:52:15 AM

He is still a Mario character, even if he has his own series icon.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#56703: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:53:40 AM

Yeah, but it just seems weird to shove him in like that. Putting him adjacent to the "main" Mario characters would make more sense, along with the DK and Wario series'.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#56704: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:55:30 AM

I just realized, one more week until the Japanese release! Soon everything will be known! I wonder if we're going to get one character reveal this Friday.

[up]That's my view too. Yoshi, Wario, and DK are affiliated with Mario but I consider them a separate thing. They can be near the main five but I'd prefer it if they keep them in their own groups.

edited 6th Sep '14 11:56:47 AM by Kostya

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#56705: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:55:59 AM

It is an odd choice, yeah, but nothing to lose sleep over.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#56706: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:57:21 AM

Well, yeah. But it's also gonna bug me a little.

I kinda like how Dedede is positioned before Meta Knight now, though. Regardless of reveal order back in Brawl, Dedede is the second most important Kirby character, above Meta Knight.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#56707: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:00:30 PM

It just occurred to me, I wonder if you'll be able to set it so that CPU fighters have a random selection of their custom specials. That would be cool.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#56708: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:03:55 PM

Indeed it would.

Also, a guidebook(a very small one) came out for the final copy of the game detailing the starting roster and their Final Smashes. It confirmed the Mii Fighters have 3 different ones per type, Mega Lucario was Lucario's Final Smash(obvious, but it's nice to have actual confirmation), and that everybody but Lucina of the revealed characters is the starting roster. Which explains why he revealed people in the order he did.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#56709: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:06:03 PM

Huh...does it say what Peach and King Dedede's Final Smashes are?

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#56710: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:09:09 PM

Peach's is the same as Brawl, while Dedede's involves lobbing bombs out of his hammer.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#56711: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:09:50 PM

King Dedede uses his Hammer to suck them in and throws Bombs at 'em if I remember correctly. Something like that.

Peach uses her Brawl version(but that was confirmed some time back, and it didn't change according to those who had the book).

It's only in Japanese, and I don't think many have bought the book to help translate it for everyone's sake.

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#56712: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:11:29 PM

Went ahead and spoilered my previous post, though it's probably a little late for that. Sorry, guess I forgot I wasn't in the leak thread.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#56713: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:15:11 PM

Pretty big detail that was in another Reddit AMA for the demo which I will spoiler just in case.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#56714: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:15:14 PM

None of Dedede's attack use Waddle Dees anymore? Bandana Dee confirmed!

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#56715: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:16:52 PM

The 3DS apparently couldn't handle the randomness of what Dedede could throw out.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#56716: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:17:29 PM

[up][up]As a trophy

Glad to see that there's some incentive for being fancy again.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#56717: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:33:18 PM

@56713: Several people have already said "I'm really feeling it!" in that threaddit, but that's a pretty accurate way to sum up my reaction.

edited 6th Sep '14 12:34:34 PM by BaffleBlend

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nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Let's dance, boys!
#56718: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:29:21 PM

Even moar info.

Apparently, custom moves are accessible on the CSS. If it's true, that means that CUSTOM MOVES MAY JUST BE ALLOWED IN TOURNEYS. Hell yeah.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#56719: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:30:20 PM

I feel like they'll ban them anyway. There are too many combinations for them to possibly balance all of them.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#56720: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:31:24 PM

There's potential for a whole new metagame here. To simply dismiss it out of hand would be incredibly stupid.

edited 6th Sep '14 1:34:01 PM by Perseus

BloatedCreeper The One and Many from Area N Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
The One and Many
#56721: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:32:55 PM

I'm very on the fence about this. I'm not sure what to think...

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DarthTaco from where the wild things are. Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#56722: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:33:48 PM

Problem is, someone could find a roflstomp combination and then pwn everyone, or everyone will end up using that roflstomp combination. Not to mention the fact that Miis and Palutena have completely different attacks for their customs rather than just variations. Yeah, they'll be banned at tournies, most likely, but I bet some might have tournaments with customs on.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#56723: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:35:44 PM

That's why time should be spent experimenting, figuring out how these things work, how they interact together. If an absurdly overpowered combination does surface, ban that in particular. There is no reason that the entire system should be ignored.

edited 6th Sep '14 1:36:01 PM by Perseus

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#56724: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:38:39 PM

@56718: I Knew It!.

@they'll be banned anyway: They probably won't. I'm a regular poster at Smashboards, and most people there are in favor of giving them a chance.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#56725: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:39:25 PM

And even then, optimal combinations in fighting games can still happen and not be banned. Psylocke's Psyblade assist in Marvel 2 is godlike yet you don't see people banning that. It just depends on if the viability is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far on the broken end like Meta Knight.


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