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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#56626: Sep 6th 2014 at 4:33:13 AM

As long as offensive options have been improved, it won't be that much of an issue. Brawl was so bad because it rewarded hardly ever throwing a punch so heavily.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#56627: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:15:56 AM

Hm... Shulk vs Meta Ridley.

Would Shulk's Monado be able to hurt him before the mid-game power up?

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#56628: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:21:49 AM

[up]Regardless of armor, yeah.

Ridley, not to mention all the Smash humans, are Homs/not beings of Bionis and thus the Monado can hurt them.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#56629: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:23:18 AM

Do all machines count as Mechon? And, I mean, he does have a face, but would Meta Ridley technically count as a Faced Mechon?

[nja]

edited 6th Sep '14 5:23:41 AM by Zarek

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#56630: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:27:49 AM

It depends

(Xenoblade spoilers: Don't read if you've not completed a dungeon called "Prison Island". Maybe not even until you get through a place called "The Fallen Arm")

I guess one question is whether the Monado only spares sapient life from Bionis, or any biological sapient life. We never run into biological sapient life off of the Bionis. That said, there do appear to be intelligent beast tribes the Monado has no issues wiht kiling... Of course, Meta Ridley's sapience has been debated, and there's the question of how much of Meta Ridley remains biological.

[up] It's not so much "Is this a Mechon?" so much as "Is this not a sapient, biological life form?"

edited 6th Sep '14 5:28:36 AM by Enlong

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#56631: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:33:17 AM

[up]The Monado is said to not harm sentient life of the Bionis, so I believe it's very safe to assume that other sentient life is fair game.

EDIT: It's also safe to assume that ether must be involved in some manner with that immunity, so that would write off anyone not from Bionis immediately.

edited 6th Sep '14 5:40:41 AM by Elbruno

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#56632: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:37:33 AM

On another note:

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#56633: Sep 6th 2014 at 5:44:36 AM

[up]Well that was the best thing ever.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#56634: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:00:36 AM

Little Mac apparently has 16 costumes(8 for wireframe and 8 for normal). There is also a rumor that Palutena has a Viridi alt. ZSS apparently has a "grey suit that reminds me of Snake's colors". All rumors.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#56635: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:01:30 AM

viridi alt doesnt seem likely, given they have completely different heights on account of viridi having the body of an 8 year old.

would be kickass if true though.

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#56636: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:02:51 AM

If this is true, and Little Mac's supposed 16 alts are based the boxers from his game, than this is GOTY for life.

Really hoping for this to be true, since Palutena dressed as Viridi would be insanely cute.

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#56637: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:04:43 AM

Its apparently more of a costume than a complete alt.[up][up]

Wireframe only changes his gloves.

Pikachu has the hat from Heart Gold and Soul Silver(?).

Edit: Returning stage Picto Chat!

Links to videos.

Starting roster is everyone revealed thus far aside from Lucina.

edited 6th Sep '14 6:52:06 AM by LordofLore

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#56638: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:28:40 AM

According to impressions, unlike what all the Melee fanboys will tell you, this game is not like Brawl. Apparently the jump speed is floaty likelike Brawl, but fastfalling is ridiculously fast, and the ground speed is more like Melee.

Here's to hoping it gets a scene.

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#56639: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:32:19 AM

[up]I'm sure it will have a competitive scene, but we all know that unless it's Melee HD, the fanboys will diss it without even playing it.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#56640: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:43:27 AM

[up][up][up] Starting rooster? Cucco confirmed for playable!

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#56641: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:48:09 AM

I just asked Zipzo about Yoshi's costumes specifically, since people were asking before.

Black Yoshi from Yoshi's Story is definitely in. He didn't clearly remember the others, but Black Yoshi stood out in his memory. Which probably means White Yoshi's also in and Purple/Orange are probably not.

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#56642: Sep 6th 2014 at 6:49:43 AM

@Enlong: That was an amazing video. It's nice to see one that isn't all parody or leak info.

It also reminds me a lot of some of the videos Street Fighter X Tekken had during promotion, such as the first minute and a half of this one.

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#56643: Sep 6th 2014 at 7:01:42 AM

@56632: Damn, that brings back memories. There's one like that I used to repeatedly watch while anticipating Brawl.

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#56644: Sep 6th 2014 at 7:57:11 AM

Welp. This guy gets a free internet.

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#56645: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:20:29 AM

So it looks like this is confirmed to be the starting roster. I'm kind of surprised by some of the people that are available from the start. I expected people like Little Mac, Pac-Man, Shulk, and Robin to be unlockable.

edited 6th Sep '14 8:21:10 AM by Kostya

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#56646: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:25:06 AM

So two of my three mains are available from the start. That nice but I'll have to learn how to unlocked Lucina quickly.

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#56647: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:25:39 AM

According to the Neogaf topic, Palutena has a Viridi color, not alt. Also the purple Charizard color, which can (barely) be seen in this video, was already in Brawl, and it's nothing like Ridley.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#56648: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:28:26 AM

If Pac-Man gets accessories instead of colors, maybe there'll be the Ms. Pac-Man bow?

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#56649: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:34:39 AM

That's really big for a starting roster.

edited 6th Sep '14 8:35:07 AM by Keybreak

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#56650: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:37:01 AM

[up]Yeah, it's almost as big as Brawl's total roster. This game is definitely going to have at least 50 characters.


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