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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#56601: Sep 5th 2014 at 8:55:33 PM

So there's a special release weekend event going on in Japan right now and one of the Smashboard people is going to give us impressions. Thus far, apparently (Anything notable that doesn't involve balance will be spoilered)

  • Ledge snapping is nerfed. For those who don't know what this means, Brawl made it a ton easier than Melee to get to a ledge because it had such a huge window of where the character could be in relation to the ledge. This game is closer to Melee in that sense, meaning recovery actually might be hard this time around!
  • Mach Tornado has been nerfed. Really easy to DI out of it now and it hits less times. Praise Arceus.
  • Pivot Canceling is still a thing.
  • Pac Man is a Mighty Glacier. His fall speed is slow, like Brawl speed, and his attacks are slow to match. Hope they at least have power behind them.
  • Lucario has faster Smash attacks, but not much else.
  • Peach's down B is slower on the plucking now. Poor Peach mains.
  • Ledge stalling is literally impossible now. Trying to do so only causes you to plummet to your doom since you can't grab the ledge again. Hooray for discouraging grief tactics!
  • Palutena has huge range. Sweet, a zoner for me to play as.
  • Robin is fast with his attacks whenever he has a spellbook out. So try to use them as often as you can.
  • Chrom is in Robin's victory pose. Poor Chrom.
  • Shield lets you cancel running. No more accidental dodges.

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#56602: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:06:35 PM

So, do Robin's spellbooks change her physical move properties, then? I recall seeing a few jab combo variants in the trailr.

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#56603: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:15:34 PM

Oh... now I'm not quite as excited for Pac-Man. Mighty Glaciers in Smash are, historically, not awesome.

Praise be to Sakurai for edge grabbing nerfs though.

edited 5th Sep '14 9:16:10 PM by RavenKingSage

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#56604: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:20:40 PM

Couple of things I didn't post because the source was unreliable at the time (the reliable source confirmed)

  • FIERCE DEITY LINK ALT. Gives him the face paint and everything.
  • Dashdancing is still impractical. Boo.

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#56605: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:35:18 PM

[up][up]You don't recall the hype about that tournament of Super Bowser Fighter II Turbo? Apparently mighty glaciers have gotten a little better, or at least that one did.

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#56606: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:35:37 PM

Moar info!

  • Thanks to the Monado's range, Shulk has amazing spacing.

  • Sm4sh still feels a bit to the floaty side, like Brawl.

  • Shield rolling has been sped up. So much so that s/he even thinks of it as a mini wavedash (Dashdancing replacement?)

edited 5th Sep '14 9:35:56 PM by nigelstack345

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#56607: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:43:39 PM

It's floaty? I can already see the complaints coming.

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#56608: Sep 5th 2014 at 9:59:57 PM

Sakurai never said it was going to be exactly like Melee anyway.

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#56609: Sep 5th 2014 at 10:06:22 PM

Gameplay!

As far as I can see, it still looks pretty darn fast. Not to Melee levels, but faster than Brawl.

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#56610: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:02:00 PM

I can already see the complaints coming.

They were already going all the way back during the invitational.

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#56611: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:07:49 PM

One thing not mentioned: Peach's Side B is very fast now.

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#56613: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:44:22 PM

I couldn't get that idea out of my head long before that pic was probably made

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#56614: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:45:29 PM

Why's he got a top hat?

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#56615: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:47:48 PM

To prove he has a sense of style. tongue

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#56616: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:51:31 PM

^^^I'm the first one to point out that I was disappointed nobody was doing Ridley edits yet tongue

^^To make it more match to the shadow duh. Also because he is fancy

edited 5th Sep '14 11:52:16 PM by SpookyMask

Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#56617: Sep 5th 2014 at 11:57:40 PM

So apparently people are saying that Charizard can be purple.

>w>

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Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#56619: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:00:21 AM

But

Purple winged lizard confirmed now.

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#56620: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:02:30 AM

mario had wario colors in brawl

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#56621: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:11:19 AM

I don't think Ridley will ever be a fighter. He's too small.

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BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
#56622: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:13:40 AM

I don't know what people mean by 'floaty', exactly. Can someone explain?

@ Ridley: Didn't his shadow pop up in a preview talking about boss characters in stages?

edited 6th Sep '14 12:18:44 AM by BeholdTheTheremin

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#56623: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:16:37 AM

@Theremin Fighters are lighter, can jump higher, and/or fall to the ground slower. In contrast to Melee that when you play it now feels so heavy you can barely get off the ground in time.

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#56624: Sep 6th 2014 at 12:20:48 AM

Oh.

That's a thing I'm in favour of. I don't like characters feeling too heavy (unless they should, like Bowser.)

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BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
#56625: Sep 6th 2014 at 1:00:14 AM

[up]I second that (though I can see how people who prefer faster gameplay wouldn't like it). Personally Brawl didn't feel that floaty...though it did feel slower than I feel it should.

4 looks like it's faster from the videos I've seen.


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