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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#56101: Sep 2nd 2014 at 6:24:59 AM

ok, mew2king is obviously a mewtwo player but who's hungrybox?

kirby?

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#56102: Sep 2nd 2014 at 6:26:26 AM

So it looks like this new game will be a bit more ground-based than the previous games.

Which is pretty justified, as Brawl's air dodge has nearly killed the aerial game, and they're retaining it for SSB4.

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AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#56103: Sep 2nd 2014 at 6:30:01 AM

Once of my 2DS/3DS systems has a Reggie Mii. Gonna make him one of my Mii fighters for sure :D

Also I got the daughter of 4chan, Vivian James, she'll be in as well :D

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#56104: Sep 2nd 2014 at 6:34:20 AM

i have no idea how anyone recreates anyone with the miis. whenever i try i find the whole thing so limited i cant make anything like i want =T

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#56105: Sep 2nd 2014 at 6:34:27 AM

@Tarsen: Yes. His Kirby is the one that made finals in the Smash Wii U tourney at E3 in fact.

edited 2nd Sep '14 6:34:58 AM by TechPowah

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#56106: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:02:38 AM

[up][up]Gotta work with what you got and then use your imagination for the rest after you get the general idea down.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#56107: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:05:22 AM

I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of the whole "chronological order" for All-Star Mode. It makes things too predictable. Part of the appeal (at least for me) in Melee's All-Star Mode was the random order. Being able to play it without having all the characters unlocked also isn't that appealing to me.

Regarding this new mechanics info, part of why L-cancelling and wavedashing always seemed problematic in my eyes was just how difficult they were. They were very tricky stuff to pull off, yet they were basically required if you wanted to play Melee in any competitive fashion. To see a similar mechanic without such a restrictive skill-gate is definitely a good thing.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#56108: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:15:15 AM

[up]That's what makes it so rewarding to master though (coming from someone who never mastered it and prefers Brawl).

I can see why people won't like the "easier" mechanic.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#56109: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:19:58 AM

There's also the fact that, well, it's a pointless mechanic. There are zero circumstances where doing it is not preferable.

I sure said that!
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#56110: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:25:54 AM

It does sound like the new L-Cancelling has a much richer reward. I don't mind, but I understand the annoyance of it.

I prefer "completely random" All-Star Mode from Melee myself.

Shadow?
kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#56111: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:29:15 AM

So let me see if I understand this. As soon as I land I can do an attack with no lag whatsoever? That sounds pretty useful.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#56112: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:40:18 AM

Its not really a new thing, it was in Brawl.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#56113: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:44:18 AM

Yeah, auto-cancelling was a thing, but that was only with certain moves. It was pretty arbitrary. I would like to see auto-cancelling be a thing with all moves because then it encourages pressure rather than turtling, but who knows.

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#56114: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:46:19 AM

@56101: M2K is Fox and Marth, not even touching his namesake. HB is Jigglypuff and Falco — he only chose Kirby in the invitational because he was close to Jigglypuff. They only play with characters in the top 5.

@Pulse: YES. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. Glad to see someone else gets it.

@56102: That's why For Glory using Final Destination is A-OK this time.

edited 2nd Sep '14 7:50:19 AM by BaffleBlend

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#56115: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:55:56 AM

I'm one of those people who find it a lot more fun to beat top tier characters with low tier ones. Feels more rewarding. I still mainly go with my favorite characters though.

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#56116: Sep 2nd 2014 at 9:02:32 AM

It should be noted that M 2 K has been playing Melee competitively for almost a decade, even competing in some of the most bare bones tourneys in 2006. To be at the top for so long pretty much ensures the elitist attitude.

Also, for references, Here is M2K and this is HungryBox

edited 2nd Sep '14 9:06:45 AM by CountofBleck

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#56117: Sep 2nd 2014 at 9:12:56 AM

An asshole is still an asshole, no matter how skilled.

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#56118: Sep 2nd 2014 at 9:46:42 AM

Yeah. Being a P:M player, I don't like being called a "fraud".

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#56119: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:10:54 AM

In which Smash 4 adds yet another mechanic reminiscent of other 2D fighters. I think I'm really gonna like this game.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#56120: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:31:52 AM

What new mechanic?

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#56121: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:35:25 AM

I'm just glad that unlockable characters are confirmed. I mean, I doubted Sakurai would start us off with everyone since he likes to make us work for our rewards, but with characters like Luigi shown I was worried he was dropping that.

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#56122: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:41:49 AM

[up][up]Autocancelling aerial attacks into any other attack or motion. Games like Street Fighter just plain wouldn't function without it.

edited 2nd Sep '14 10:42:27 AM by BaffleBlend

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#56123: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:42:52 AM

Wasn't it officially confirmed some time ago that the starting roster would be every character so revealed so far (can't remember if this was before or after the Shulk reveal) except Lucina? Didn't that by itself confirm that there would be unlockable characters? Not that I understand why people ever believed there wouldn't be any unlockable characters in the first place, since the evidence for it was a grand total of absolute zero.

Also, what's the point of even having landing lag in the first place, again?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#56124: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:48:01 AM

It was never actually confirmed.

The E-Shop roster could be the starting one, though. It does appear to be the case, if the latest Pic of the Day's selections mean anything.

Shadow?
Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#56125: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:53:15 AM

Really, the whole "there won't be any unlockable characters" panic reminds me of a general trend of, whenever something hasn't been commented on (often because it's something so obvious that it doesn't actually need to be commented on), to assume the single worst scenario you can possibly come up with and then acting like it's the confirmed truth. It really annoys me, and is part of why I left the Blizzard and Bioware forums.

edited 2nd Sep '14 10:53:54 AM by Druplesnubb


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