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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#55451: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:38:19 PM

We don't know if her full power was being used during that fight.

Of course, there was Pseudo-Palutena who would have no such excuse so who knows. At the very least, in combat, Pit is more than likely more powerful than Palutena.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#55452: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:39:43 PM

Pseudo-Palutena was a copy. I doubt even Dyntos could completely, accurately copy the abilities of a god.

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#55453: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:39:57 PM

According to Palutena's trailer, anything that an angel can do, a goddess can do better.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55454: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:41:26 PM

Keep in mind that Pit can only defeat major gods like Medusa and Hades while using special weapons. When he's fighting by himself he probably isn't a match for them.

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#55455: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:42:22 PM

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#55456: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:44:14 PM

[up][up] He did kind of have to go out of his way in order to not kill her, though. I thought I was supposed to blast her directly at first, and she went down almost instantly.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#55457: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:45:14 PM

[up][up][up] That's true for Hades but he doesn't need the Three Sacred Treasures (well, he needs the Pegasus Wings but those only improve mobility) to defeat Medusa and anyone (in theory) can use the standard weapons Pit uses.

Besides, you can have the strongest weapon in the world but it may as well be a simple stick if you don't have the prowess to use it properly.

edited 29th Aug '14 2:46:41 PM by Zelenal

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#55458: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:46:59 PM

I know in game you can defeat Medusa without the Sacred Treasures but I always thought that was a case of Gameplay and Story Segregation. In universe I'm pretty sure he has to have them otherwise there's no point to retrieving them in the first place.

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#55459: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:47:27 PM

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#55460: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:50:26 PM

[up][up] It could be that they thought the Three Sacred Treasures were needed when they weren't. Even if he does need them, they're only weapons (well, one sort of is) and the most powerful weapon in the world may just as well be a simple stick if you don't have the prowess to wield it.

edited 29th Aug '14 2:50:39 PM by Zelenal

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#55462: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:51:31 PM

[up] Come on, now that guy was obviously just looking for an excuse.

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After all, it's only appropriate for the Smash thread to be composed of 50% KI:Uprising material as well.

edited 29th Aug '14 2:54:04 PM by Fawriel

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#55463: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:53:48 PM

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55464: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:56:02 PM

Zelenal: It's just my personal opinion. There probably isn't enough info to tell one way or the other. Even if he's not in a same tier as Medusa, Palutena, and Hades Pit is still godlike when it comes to strength. He's beaten Thanatos, Pandora, and Phosphora without any special powers.

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#55465: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:56:18 PM

Edit ....

edited 29th Aug '14 2:56:50 PM by Ultimatum

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#55466: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:57:25 PM

Everyone on Neogaf was making fun of him during the lead up to the Robin reveal. Then we all got punked. Of course Shulk was coming, but he came a month later than we initially thought.

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#55467: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:58:59 PM

Phosphora seems to be along Pit's line of base power, actually. She's never referred to as a goddess, just as a powerful warrior aligned with the Forces of Nature.

... But yeah, Pit's a fairly powerful figure within his own series.

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#55468: Aug 29th 2014 at 2:59:09 PM

He did kind of have to go out of his way in order to not kill her, though. I thought I was supposed to blast her directly at first, and she went down almost instantly.

Recall that that was after Paluena'd had her soul being drained by the Chaos Kin, and her expending her power to stave off the effects, for three years.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#55469: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:00:49 PM

Pulse: I know. I'm just saying that Phosphora is explicitly more powerful than another god(Thanatos). She might not be a goddess herself but she's still on a similar level and Pit can beat her by himself.

edited 29th Aug '14 3:01:13 PM by Kostya

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#55470: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:01:16 PM

Also should note that Phosphora was not at full power when fighting Pit, having exhausted herself against Thanny-poo.

They're probably about equal power, though, both being their respective goddess' champions.

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#55471: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:05:39 PM

Out of curiosity, what's the Japanese name of Shulk's trailer? Is it also the "we're screwed" battle line?

Or does it just say "Shulk joins the battle" or something?

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#55472: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:05:55 PM

BURN.

Ridley probably won't be included because he'd mess up the power tiers too much. He'd dwarf everyone.

edited 29th Aug '14 3:06:04 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#55474: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:19:44 PM

I don't think we'll see Ridley, because he might be a little too iconic at this point. Smash has too many major characters and not enough relatively minor ones, such as Rosalina.

Ridley is too big a name, in other words.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#55475: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:22:54 PM

not particularly invested in power levels (man im just ace-ing this apathy shit) but i think its a pretty safe bet to put any reality warpers above gods and non gods. unless we get into levels of reality warpers in which case maybe not always? but i think in general reality warping trumps god.


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