The main thing that was to disprove the leak was whether or not the art in the leak matched the official art once that was revealed. The leak's art matched the official render.
The other thing was the fact that Shulk's gameplay was shown in a leaked gameplay video before said video was taken down.
So now, the leak has a lot more credence that it's an actual leak and not faked. Hence the reaction.
edited 29th Aug '14 12:48:33 PM by Customer
How do you guys think the competitive viability of 4 will be? Will it finally be a suitable successor? Because I hear a lot of calls of "Brawl 2.0" from people who were disappointed by the Best Buy build.
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerWe basically won't really know until after the game's released and people have had time to take it to the lab. Considering the game has had updates that seem to be skewed towards the competitive players (as well as updates since that build of the game), I think that it'll likely get into that scene eventually.
I don't think that playing a demo for a short amount of time is enough to really get a bead on how the game will play at release, but that's just me.
edited 29th Aug '14 1:17:21 PM by Customer
Should be okay. It will have a competitive scene (even Brawl had one), and competitive players at the invitational tournament were mostly okay with it, had some substantial complaints and had those complaints actually noted down by Nintendo staff. Especially considering the context of Nintendo holding a competitive tournament for their upcoming game in the first place, they really seem to have realized the value of a hardcore competitive crowd backing your franchise and are likely to listen to criticism that would risk them falling out of favor with that part of the fanbase.
Obligatory Pit codec go:
Pit: Hey Palutena, why is there kanji suddenly popping up behind that guy?
Palutena: Oh, I see you're fighting Shulk now. Yeah, that happens when you fight him on occasion.
Pit: Any particular reason why that is?
Palutena: The kanji displays a Monado art. It's the laser sword he's carrying, and the arts are its power. His arts powers him up in one area but weakens him in another.
Pit: Really? One sword does all of that?
Palutena: Yeah, and it also allow him to see into the future.
Pit: Whoa.... So he'll know every attack I can do before I do it to him?
Palutena: In theory yes. He might have even known that you'd ask for my help right now.
Pit: So I'm fighting a guy who can see the future and has a sword that strengthens him. At the very least, do we know what the kanji say?
Palutena: No idea. My knowledge of Chinese characters are.... limited to say the very least. Sorry, Pit, I'm afraid you're alone on that department.
Pit: -groans-
edited 29th Aug '14 1:34:49 PM by nigelstack345
Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 SmashI think Buster-mode Shulk is going to be at least A-tier. His weakness to balance out the higher damage output is lower knockback, but... lower knockback means higher combo ability. And when he needs knockback, he can shift into Smash-mode.
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
He does appear to be hurt in the range department though. All of his Buster attacks didn't show the laser blade.
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She sure doesn't know her Japanese characters. That's Chinese.
edited 29th Aug '14 1:28:01 PM by Elbruno
"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."powerpuffbats: So far we have 38 characters. That's one less than Brawl's roster and that's not counting characters that are pretty much guaranteed to return like Falco, Ganon, Jigglypuff, and Game and Watch.
There was also that image posted of what appears to be the starting roster.
◊ It includes every character revealed so far save Lucina and Mii Fighters. If that's really the starting roster then we're definitely getting 50+.
edited 29th Aug '14 1:31:34 PM by Kostya
@Pulse: Welllll, saying that being slow was its main problem competitively is kind of underselling it, I think. Brawl being slow as molasses is the reason I can't play Toon Link in it because I only ever end up using the down-stab in order to land, but as far as I understand, Brawl being a terrible competitive game is more about the lack of combos and hitstun resulting in a game of rolling around until someone dares to throw a punch.
The final match of the invitational did show signs of that, but as I said, they talked to Nintendo about their issues, and it did already look a lot smoother.
Where was that posted?
edited 29th Aug '14 1:37:19 PM by Fawriel
If my understand is right, 翔 (Jump) is an outdated variant of 跳ぶ (とぶ) which means "to jump."
疾 (Speed) might be 疾走 (しっそう) meaning "sprint."
盾 (Shield), read as たて, means exactly that.
斬 (Buster), read as ざん, is an obscure word meaning "beheading." There are other words that kanji is a part of but they all mean roughly the same thing.
撃 (Smash) might be 攻撃 (こうげき) meaning "attack, strike, offensive."
edited 29th Aug '14 1:45:09 PM by Zelenal
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Get the character right? Alright. Get the artwork and gameplay right? ...Nah, just a lucky guess.
edited 29th Aug '14 12:44:53 PM by Elbruno
"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."