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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#54326: Aug 21st 2014 at 4:12:57 AM

@54324: It is. "Video Game Tester" is one of the most "not anywhere near as good as it sounds" jobs in existence. I've seen it taking a toll on the Super Smash Flash 2 developer team repeatedly, especially as the next demo release at the time draws closer.

edited 21st Aug '14 4:14:44 AM by BaffleBlend

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#54327: Aug 21st 2014 at 5:06:36 AM

Don't worry, everyone who wanted Ghirahim playable. He's playable in another game.

I have a message from another time...
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#54328: Aug 21st 2014 at 5:14:47 AM

So Zelda has 3 A Ts now, this reminds me that I should go back and play Skyward Sword.

Vgm3 This is the Monado's power! from Miami, Florida Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
This is the Monado's power!
#54329: Aug 21st 2014 at 5:54:28 AM

Four actually. Midna, Skull Kid, and Tingle are the others.

Now's it's Shulk Time!
beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#54331: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:43:37 AM

I guess a foreigner didn’t make this as Mewtwo and Ridley aren’t in it.

Heh.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#54332: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:46:52 AM

... Seriously? We're still on this fake?

Why? Why has it captured the imaginations of so many when so many things about it give it away as a 'shop job?

I sure said that!
Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#54333: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:47:38 AM

's there any other news to talk about?

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#54334: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:51:02 AM

Maybe Ghirahim's Assist Trophy will have him grab people with his tongue and throw them

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#54335: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:51:28 AM

Shit, I'm trying to find that huge 4chan post trying to disprove Samurott and Emboar when they leaked but I cant find it anywhere...

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#54336: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:52:08 AM

maybe it'll sparkle like a disco ball and blind everyone with its magnificence?

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#54337: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:53:04 AM

[up][up][up] Relevant

edited 21st Aug '14 6:53:16 AM by paperbritt

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#54338: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:56:06 AM

Shit, I'm trying to find that huge 4chan post trying to disprove Samurott and Emboar when they leaked but I cant find it anywhere...
Okay, let's not focus on that and instead ask: Why the fuck would the character and stage select screens be so damn boring? The UI is completely different from everything else we've seen- Why would it be?

I sure said that!
KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#54339: Aug 21st 2014 at 6:58:17 AM

... Seriously? We're still on this fake? Why? Why has it captured the imaginations of so many when so many things about it give it away as a 'shop job?

Welcome to your nightmare!

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#54340: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:00:30 AM

I don't know how two leaked images among the set(before the Famitsu article existed) that matched up perfectly can be a shop job. Also, I don't know if I can properly link them. It depends if they were uploaded somewhere outside of Smashboards. Images link like crap there. >_<

The only way that'll even remotely possible is if they got that article early and made up everything else well beforehand.

A lot of the other stuff isn't odd either. The roster selection is extremely Sakurai-like. The clone choices match him well. As does every other choice. The placement of the roster may not be finished, much like in Melee, or he didn't follow a pattern and changed it up with some other thought in mind. One other thing to note is that the final copy may have a better looking roster design. Some of those may be placeholder images(like Ganondorf) as well for the ERSB to rate(if that's the case, DLC may be the reason why the roster is so oddly placed, as they can't rate those characters. Those who are on it are probably the final ones on the disc normally).

Besides, every single image it could be shopped from does not match a single one at all beyond old Brawl images at best. And the placeholder point makes this somewhat possible. And no, there aren't really any glaring reasons it could be a shop job either.

Unlike the Gematsu leak which had a ton of real holes, missed dates, and even an incorrect character, this has... almost nothing. At least nothing concrete as of yet. Keep in mind I am not entirely happy with some of the choices. But I don't really care about that when it comes to debunking it either. I care about really strong proof it's fake, of which none has come up. I visit a Smashboards leak group on this. Over 4,000 posts of trying to debunk this, and we've debunked those ideas with very careful analysis.

I am not going to deny it could be a shop job. But it's as unlikely as Wii Fit Trainer not having that alt.(which I even believed it was an alt, anyway. I just kept an open mind about it and wanted to see it properly confirmed, not a poor hint with just a "they have the same jumping animation" only).

edited 21st Aug '14 7:10:39 AM by Irene

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#54341: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:07:47 AM

So the Japanese opinions on the leak is exactly the same as everyone else's. Who knew?

I am amused at the "No Mewtwo and Ridley equals surprising" line, although that makes me wonder how much the Japanese actually care about those two characters in the first place.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#54342: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:09:15 AM

last i heard, metroid isnt nearly as popular in japan as it is stateside.

other m was sort of an attempt to get the japanese more interested, iirc?

so i would say neither really are all that popular in japan.

but eh, what do i know.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#54343: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:10:13 AM

The only problem is that ESRB doesn't play the games, they only look at a DVD footage of the content, so they wouldn't be playing the game at all.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#54344: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:11:24 AM

Also the sloppy models on several characters.

Also the hideous UI.

Also the sheer improbability of several of the inclusions.

I sure said that!
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#54345: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:15:15 AM

Not playing the game. But someone copying the images is not impossible. They still overall get to see the game. I may have poorly worded that earier.

We don't know if they got DVD's or directly saw someone play. I don't know much about practices, but if it was a DVD, it's easier to sneak images that way and it would explain the somewhat poor picture quality on some images. Also, well, the older images used and bland-looking roster design being placeholders is somewhat easy to see. Smash 64's older images had horrid spots for the hidden characters. Just a question mark with a colored background for the portrait. The final copy changed it to blacked out shadows with a background like the others.

I also would not be surprised if Sakurai made image choices for the portraits similar to ones he saw. Whether some of them will be the same upon release(besides old artworks) is hard to say.

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  • Not the final copy of the game. Of course the "quality" will suck for some portraits.
  • What does UI mean? Again, quality cannot be determined when we have a weaker system than the Wii U(which we know already), and demos get different changes. If you mean the order, we don't know why it's odd. But this is Sakurai.
  • None of those choices are improbable, period. Every single one of those are actually pretty likely at this point. Sakurai bias. The cuts aren't odd. Kind of like how Mewtwo was gone in Brawl. DLC may exist, or the ERSB didn't get any secret newcomers for some odd reason(leaning towards DLC as a more realistic scenario, imo).

edited 21st Aug '14 7:18:39 AM by Irene

Shadow?
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#54346: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:16:43 AM

The game ships in Japan in less than a month.

The UI has been finalized by now, for certain.

I sure said that!
FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#54347: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:17:13 AM

The fact that they don't play the game means that there's no reason for the ESRB nickname above Bowser. They only play the game after it's released.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#54348: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:20:27 AM

Well, I can already tell September is going to be excruciating.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#54349: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:22:06 AM

nah it'll probably go by really quickly.

unless you're following this thread i guess...

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#54350: Aug 21st 2014 at 7:22:34 AM

@Pulse: Again, what does UI stand for? And if that's the quality of the final roster, so be it as well. And it's a review copy. If it was finished for the ERSB to see(instead of play), it was probably made well earlier. We just got the images recently, after all. The demo stuff changes very constantly, so we can't really judge it based upon some meh images. That, and Brawl's final roster was also leaked without Wolf who was a secret unlockable nobody knew about. And it was real. You know, with improbable choices?

@Full Moon: Well, why wouldn't the person have that on Bowser to show it's a copy for the ERSB to review(Via DVD)? It kind of doesn't mean much. Nobody knows why it's like that. But thanks for explaining why they don't play it. smile

edited 21st Aug '14 7:23:50 AM by Irene

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