Please don't tell me you're defending this leak. If it's real, that's a bad thing.
I'm not just sore about Mewtwo. There are way too many gratuitous cuts to be justifiable.
edited 20th Aug '14 1:57:29 PM by BaffleBlend
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Stop putting words in my mouth that I didn't say.
Like I said, there's too many gratuitous cuts of characters with unique playstyles in favor of Dr. Mario and Dark Pit.
edited 20th Aug '14 2:00:22 PM by BaffleBlend
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — UltimatepheerOn one hand Shulk.
On another Dark Pit, and no freakin' Wolf. I can understand the weird logic behind Dr. Mario though (MegaVitamins and Doctor Tornado make him function really different from Mario, particularly the former F.L.U.D.D. or not.)
🏳️⚧️she/her | Vio Rhyse Alberia
Dude, Megavitamins are literally Fireballs with damage upped and a different model/sound.
@Mokura: The difference is that we have actual evidence it's real besides a single picture that had zero context about it being a "costume". You can't fake a perfect leak of a stage shot. Also, you seem to misunderstand. I always thought it was an alternate costume, but I can't pretend it's confirmed until it, well, is. So I stay skeptical till otherwise. I think this leak is real, but it's not confirmed(nor am I acting like it is, since that's silly).
And this roster rocks anyway. I don't care about Mewtwo, honestly. He wasn't in Brawl. I don't see why he must be in this game either. DLC is hopeful for him, yes. But I love almost every choice(except Palutena and Dark Pit over Medusa), really. Assuming we don't get DLC, I will vastly miss Wolf, Lucas, and the Ice Climbers(somewhat on Snake, but I would like Simon Belmont anyway). I was originally opposed to Pac-Man, but damn, his moveset rules anyway.
The (we don't have enough evidence for) other leak has Chorus Kids as DLC. So they're not impossible. But they were never really guaranteed anyway.
edited 20th Aug '14 2:06:00 PM by Irene
Shadow?Yeah, the angle/physics/trajectory are significantly different.
As a Dr. Mario main I would know this.
🏳️⚧️she/her | Vio Rhyse AlberiaYou have a reaaally weird idea of what constitutes evidence.
Anyway, I'm not even invested either way, but it's amazing how gullible people are if someone cooks up a fake picture. Every time there's a fake that isn't immediately obvious, people do this...
edited 20th Aug '14 2:11:10 PM by CassidyTheDevil
I think the leak is fake but if it does turn out real I'm going to be pissed. The only things about it I like are Shulk and Duck Hunt being included. Everything else irritates the hell out of me.
- Of all the people Sakurai could bring back why the hell would he choose Dr. Mario over someone like Mewtwo? He's Mario with different clothes and that's it. The only difference are in the properties of his special moves at which point he might as well have just made him an alt and given us those as custom moves.
- Dark Pit is also aggravating because KI really has no business having three characters. It's got enough representation as is and he can also be an alt for Pit. Give us someone new.
- Ice Climbers, Wolf, and Lucas are locked behind DLC despite being free in the previous game?
- The layout is a mess. Seriously how do you go from Brawl's layout, which was basically perfect when it came to organizing things, to that?
Two leak pictures perfectly matching far later posted Famitsu articles? That's actual evidence. Likewise, you can't fake that type of stuff. Not a stage like that. A portrait is potentially possible, but not the exact stage room.
The only actual evidence it was a costume was that both of them had the exact same model animations on their jumps. And that was it. We had zero new pictures, so it was weaker overall. Never mind I believed it was an alt costume, but I just wanted the thing confirmed before being added to the page or being treated like an alt in discussion(which how can you treat something that isn't confirmed as a fact? Illogical). My whole argument was, if you would pay more attention "We can't confirm that yet." and nothing more. Once it was confirmed, which didn't surprise me, it made sense to talk about alts since we know they officially existed.
I am not treating this leak as a fact, actually. But nobody has found a single shred of legitimate evidence that it could be fake. Everything matches up without a doubt. I'm treating it as "pretty much believe it, yep", which is a different thing.
Shadow?For the record, yes, I was talking about Irene, Baffle. I apologize that I didn't make tha clear.
And I dunno. I'm not a fan of this roster at all. Like, it's mostly okay, I guess. But Dr. Mario and Dark Pit are meh. I'm also not a fan of the dog being called "Duck Hunt."
But what irks me most is the idea of DLC. If that's true, and they intentionally cut out characters to sell later, I'll be pissed.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
x7: It's not just his specials that are different. Many of his other attacks also have different properties (in addition to being stronger in general). And Dr. Mario's Dr. Tornado would be a Down Special instead of a dair.
edited 20th Aug '14 2:22:05 PM by Folt
Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!I would also like to clarify that there was a whole update some time back showing the Tomodachi Life stage.
Just noting because the implication from the reactions is that this is the first time seeing it, which it isn't.

Isn't it a premade room in Tomodachi Life? I've heard people say that.