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#53151: Aug 13th 2014 at 5:55:46 AM

BTW, just a reminder, Samurai mentioned a loooong time ago that ALL gliding in the game is gone. So yeah, that alone hurts MK recovery options.

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#53152: Aug 13th 2014 at 5:57:30 AM

^Won't he still jump like Kirby and Jigglypuff?

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#53154: Aug 13th 2014 at 6:11:40 AM

[up][up][up] Pretty sure he said that Pit's gliding was gone.

Not all. I remember from the Direct that he said Pit no longer can glide. I don't remember any of the "all" part. So it may be back for some.

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#53155: Aug 13th 2014 at 7:19:30 AM

I hope Meta Knights final smash is the Mach Tornado from Kirby Superstar Ultra.

Happens at about 3:34 in the video.

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#53156: Aug 13th 2014 at 7:46:13 AM

Still trolling Ridley fans

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#53157: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:12:35 AM

[up][up][up] Pretty sure the wording in Aprils direct was "The gliding mechanic was cut"

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#53158: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:15:19 AM

Nah. I remember him saying "Pit's gliding was cut."

I'm not the only who's pointed this out on various forums and such, so I'm pretty sure it's just a mishearing.

Anyway, that said, I really don't see why it would be cut as a whole, but we'll find out later anyway with the game's release.

Shadow?
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#53159: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:17:04 AM

The only reason I could see it being cut as a whole honestly is. Well Metaknight himself, if you were skilled enough you could fly from one edge to the other from under the stage lol.

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#53160: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:18:54 AM

...That first sentence made no sense.

Pit himself got a severe redesign, which is why him losing it is logical. MK only lost it strictly for his Up B to our knowledge.

The rest? Nah. Charizard has no reason to lose it, since he needs all the help he can get. MK might still have it, and it's not broken or anything even with MK, it was just his Up B that was an issue.

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#53161: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:23:46 AM

My apologies its early in the morning, my grammar is not all there. Honestly I find it to not be bad other then the aforementioned shuttle loop so I'd be fine with it. It's just everything associated with Metaknight in Brawl left a bad taste in my mouth, this is coming from someone who is a huge Metaknight fan too.

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#53162: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:29:49 AM

I can't even really play as him at all.

I mean, he is cool in his own right, but I am glad some nerfing ideas are being done. I do wonder how strong he'll be overall in 4, though. I doubt he'll be super nerfed, though. I mean, Kirby and Pikachu were hit hard from 64 to Melee. Fox was kept top tier throughout all the series thus far. DK felt a bit weakened, though. Ness was about the same(on the last tier list of each game, anyway, but he used to feel like a king, but was kind of bleh in Melee). Maybe an inverse of Link? He was buffed in Melee, but was bad in 64. MK might be worse in 4, but still not horrible?

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#53163: Aug 13th 2014 at 8:46:59 AM

If I recall right, he said "We've cut the gliding mechanic from Pit's repertoire." And the associated footage shows that they were referring to how nerfed his multiple jumps are. Characters such as Kirby and Charizard still retain their multiple jumps, and it's likely Meta Knight does as well.

Although I still wonder if Charizard is able to glide like he could in Brawl...

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#53164: Aug 13th 2014 at 9:32:46 AM

Even if he still could, Charizard's Glide sucked anyway. He drops too fast to get any use out of it unless you're really high in the air.

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#53165: Aug 13th 2014 at 9:54:51 AM

I love how Sakurai mentioned the earlier post with the impostor. I guess now we know it didn't play out like that Brawl in the Family comic.

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#53166: Aug 13th 2014 at 10:47:18 AM

I kind of hope he still has his hilariously deep voice from Brawl in this game.

You know who'd be be great voicing Meta Knight this time around? Two words.

Steve. Blum.

I swear, lately I can't not hear him as Meta Knight.

edited 13th Aug '14 10:55:18 AM by TargetmasterJoe

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#53167: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:14:08 PM

No! Meta Knight should not be in this game! He was broken in Brawl and he'll just be broken again!

No one likes Meta Knight since he just makes the game boring. He doesn't even have the challenge of learning how to play him like Fox did in Melee; you just pick him up, press buttons, and suddenly you're a high-level tournament player.

It's best if he was just left out for this game. There's no point in reintroducing a heavily broken character.

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#53169: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:16:46 PM

[up][up]Honestly not sure if trolling.

Really, if you are trolling, nobody says things like that around here.

Anyway, lookie!

Though I wish it came with an actual copy and not a digital one for collection purposes.

edited 13th Aug '14 2:16:57 PM by DarthTaco

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#53170: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:19:40 PM

Dude, at this point I'm pretty sure you're just trolling in every thread you're in, so.. uh, stop that please, I guess.

The crazy thing is that, according to what I heard, some Japanese people actually used that logic to petition for not having Mewtwo in Brawl because he was inherently weak apparently and that just wouldn't do. That is still one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, but hey, there's a lot of dumb things in the world.

In any case I don't even like Metaknight because I'm irrationally biased against overpowered characters, but let's be real here.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#53171: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:24:17 PM

[up] People demanding for Mewtwos removal was a big thing in the west too, atleast if my interactions on the old Nsider forums are anything to go by. Nothing but Geno and Tom Nook and Mewtwo topics back then.

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#53172: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:24:29 PM

Uh, I'm pretty sure he got nerfed.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#53173: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:26:33 PM

No Konkfan Metaknight is impossible to nerf I mean look at him. He's a ball with a sword and he's wearing a mask. That's the face of a man who knows no remorse.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#53174: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:28:03 PM

That would explain his inexplicable serial killer voice in Brawl....

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#53175: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:28:10 PM

I'd be shocked if Meta Knight didn't end up much more balanced than he was in Brawl.

Admittedly, that's probably not saying much, but still.

I sure said that!

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