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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52776: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:48:01 PM

For the record, constantly posting "I agree" doesn't really help anyone's arguments. It's just another post with zero content.

That said, my point still stands overall the Uprising has the most content out of any particular game in the Smash series period and they could really show off other games. Doctrain does have a fair point that's not much to draw from, and Pulse is right that the enemies were barely redesigned in 3D, so we still have some classic representation(even if it's directly uploaded from Uprising instead of a new 3D design). So it's not as bad as I had thought.

But we could definitely use less Uprising stuff regardless. Fire Emblem could seriously use an Item, same with F-Zero(is there anything that might work, though?), and I think that was all the series that has zero items(that could feasibly get some). Pikmin has one, I think(at least in 4. I forget if it did in Brawl). To clarify, I don't mean stage-only items that show up either.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52777: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:52:12 PM

I've had this idea for ages- A Boost Pad from F-Zero.

It'd generate as a sparkly electric ball that, after being thrown and landing on the ground, would become a fully set-up Boost Pad from GX that would rocket anyone who stepped on it forward, fast enough to damage anyone in the way.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#52778: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:52:30 PM

I think it's because they think the Uprising items have more potential.

I myself am a huge Pikmin fan, but find myself dumbfounded when I realize how little potential there is for items from the series. (Bomb Rocks are all I can think of right off the bat)

Strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#52779: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:56:49 PM

A boos pad item seems like it'd be kinda weird.

There's only so many series that can gove items that work. KIU happens to have a lot of good ones.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52780: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:58:00 PM

Maybe Pikmin could have a Nectar item that temporarily boosts attack power?

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#52781: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:58:32 PM

I feel like that X-Bomb, Back Shield and Killer Eye would've shown up even if Uprising didn't exist, albeit with more Smashy designs.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52782: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:59:15 PM

No, I'm pretty sure we got so much Uprising stuff because Sakurai loves it and many worked on that game. Albeit, we could get a lot of other stuff from other series that shows it off to a high degree too.

I like the boost pad idea. Pikmin's Bomb Rocks are cool. I wouldn't mind some Assist Trophies related to them, or maybe the random items could show up too. The references to real world items.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#52783: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:00:26 PM

Question: Is the ultimate weapon of pain the fan back for this installment?

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52784: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:01:04 PM

Considering how many elements of Smash appear in KIU? Most of the items were probably Smash item ideas he wanted to try out.

Strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#52785: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:01:26 PM

Most of the other items I can think of are already covered by existing ones. For example, Shields from Sonic are covered by the Shield button.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#52786: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:06:51 PM

Except the Fire shield has the fire dash and the Bubble Shield has that bounce.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52787: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:08:33 PM

Although that latest one is actually pretty unique. It takes a partial idea from the Dragoon, but adds the Cracker Launcher/Super Scope into the mix.

The Ore Club isn't nearly as unique, though. Same with the Shield.

Although to be fair, adding Items from 3rd Party series might be a bit tougher(outside of Bandai-Namco since they're working on the game). Every bit of content costs some money beyond the character alone, although deals were made for tons, I'm sure, if possible. Also, Sakurai has to cater to the 3rd Party Company's particular choices, not just what he wants, for things like Songs, etc. He probably has a lot of free reign solely for the moveset.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#52788: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:15:16 PM

I dunno. The Ore Club's wind-shooter thing is kinda interesting. I can't think of a lot that would work in the same way.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#52789: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:23:47 PM

The only thing I could see working from F-Zero is one of those repair spaceships slowly restoring your health. Maybe make it so that it creates a localized zone that restores everyone on your team's health?

Pokemon has the Pokeballs, sure, but I think some of the held items could be pretty cool. A Life Orb that gives an attack boost at the cost of damage to yourself, an Assault Vest that greatly reduces damgage but locks out certain moves, A Choice Band that boosts one special move but locks you into it....

Other than the Dragoon and Maximum Tomato, does Kirby have any items?

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#52790: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:25:38 PM

The Spicy Curry and the Warp Star.

edited 5th Aug '14 8:25:56 PM by Keybreak

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#52791: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:27:03 PM

[up][up]Now THAT is a cool idea.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52792: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:38:58 PM

[up][up][up] I like~

@Enlong: Oh, right, honestly forgot about that part. That's actually pretty cool. I can't think of many Weapons/Items from various Nintendo-related series that could've been like it, either. Golden Sun, at least. Quest 64 barely has it, since Brian's Staff could be used by the wielder to create various elemental magic, including a cyclone. That said, any other games with elemental weapons like that?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52794: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:42:38 PM

Kirby also has the Star Rod.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#52795: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:45:28 PM

In Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, there was an accessory that made the wearer immune to bonus damage. Thus, if a Pegasus Rider wore it, they would take normal damage from arrows and wind magic, rather than triple. In Smash Bros, maybe it could work like the Cloaking Device from Melee, making the wearer immune to damage - but not knockback - for as long as it's on.

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#52796: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:50:32 PM

That's a common thing. Akaneia had Iote's Shield, Elibe had the Delphi Shield, Magvel the Fila Shield...

Iote's Shield is the only one with plot fanfare, so if any of them is getting in Smash, it's that.

Do we know what any of them look like?

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#52797: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:53:35 PM

Iote's Shield is displayed as one of the DLC skill icons in Awakening, if that counts.

On that note, the description sounds more akin to the badges from Brawl. It could definitely work as one of the more rare items, in any case.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#52798: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:54:10 PM

They all had little icons, at least.

The Iote's Shield skill in Awakening also has a pretty nifty little design on it, with a vague wing motif.

I'd love to see the Iron Rune/Hoplon Guard as a protection from Smash attacks.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#52799: Aug 5th 2014 at 9:00:29 PM

Is anyone else worried that Mr. Game & Watch doesn't have a page on the official website yet?

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#52800: Aug 5th 2014 at 9:02:05 PM

He showed up in Pacman's introduction vid. If he WASN'T in the game then that'd be a pretty big slap in his two-dimensional face.

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