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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52751: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:50:03 PM

@Pulse: Where's mah Eggplant Wizard?

Wings of Icarus? I mean, I don't expect the Hammer to show up simply because we have two Hammers, and its use wouldn't be very good. Unless it wasn't a clone of the previous two and acted more like a regular battering item. You could swing it in various ways, basically. That'd be neat. Albeit, the Golden Hammer acts very similar to the first KI's hammer, respectively. The whole two-shot animation was something brought in from it. I don't know if the original Golden Hammer acted like that, though.

And that is true, but that also means that some of the classic enemies could've kept a classic design to rep the first KI instead. Much like what was done with Mega Man himself.

[up] From multiple different games. So, not really a valid comparison. I already went over that.

edited 5th Aug '14 6:51:18 PM by Irene

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#52752: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:53:14 PM

Yes, but then they'd have to bother to recreate the classic designs for smash and bring them in to full 3D.

The new enemy designs have half the work done for them already.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52753: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:54:54 PM

[up][up] Uprising updated those designs. Those are the designs of those enemies now. Are you also annoyed that Koopas don't walk on all fours, or that Magikoopas fly on brooms instead of appear and disappear like in Super Mario World?

edited 5th Aug '14 6:55:09 PM by paperbritt

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#52754: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:55:20 PM

Hmmm...

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52756: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:57:24 PM

[up][up] I don't know what that screenshot is, but I'm assuming its a Namco in-joke of some type?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52757: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:04:45 PM

That's not really a good excuse regardless. Especially after the many Retro stuff shown off for various series(like remaking the Green Shell to a sprite design in Brawl compared to its more 3D design in the previous games). He's done that multiple times already, so yes, it's clearly doable and he clearly does it. I understand he really loves that game, but it is very overwhelming to see that being the majority of the KI representation as is. I don't expect much from Myth and Monsters, but the original definitely could use more.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#52758: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:06:21 PM

@52750: The difference is Mario's items were taken from separate games.

Even Kirby, which has five items (Star Rod, Warp Star, Curry, Food, Dragoon) takes them from different games (Adventure, Dream Land 1, Super Star, Air Ride).

What I'm saying is, it'll be a bit awkward if KI becomes an established series later and there's such a high concentration from just one game.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:07:10 PM by BaffleBlend

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#52759: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:08:32 PM

Mario and Kirby have far longer histories to steal from. Pit has three games, one of which it seems no one played.

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52760: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:08:49 PM

[up][up][up] The green shell was a 3D model in Brawl. What are you even talking about anymore?

edited 5th Aug '14 7:09:00 PM by paperbritt

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52761: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:10:16 PM

That's Myth and Monsters. Which is America only. I don't expect much(or anything) from that game due to that fact. First game is very easy to find naturally, so there's at least one more well known game to easily get stuff from anyway.

More can clearly be done from that game, respectively. Maybe not much, but some at least.

[up] Designed particularly like the original Super Mario Bros. 1 sprite. It's not nearly the same as the first two games. It's a retro-based design, just like Mega Man is in 4.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:11:22 PM by Irene

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52763: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:13:51 PM

Sadly, no. Might be a good way to incorporate an Ax into the game in general. Or a Spear. It's not as great as a character fully wielding it, but it shows off multiple weapon types.

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52764: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:13:55 PM

[up] [up] It's the design from Mario Kart Wii. It even has a little collar for the Koopas neck.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:14:15 PM by paperbritt

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#52765: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:14:05 PM

[up]x6: Exactly. And that's why I say "not yet".

edited 5th Aug '14 7:15:07 PM by BaffleBlend

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#52766: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:17:18 PM

[up][up]Mario Kart Wii came out after Brawl.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52767: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:19:55 PM

...Does FE have any items?
Brave weapons would be pretty nifty for their double-swing element. Short Spears or Spears would be cool for being multi-use throwing items that stick in the ground, the Imposing Axe from Awakening might be a decent gimmick weapon somewhat similar to the Homerun Bat...

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#52768: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:21:04 PM

With the exception of hammers, nurses, and petrified Centurions, I'm pretty sure everything from KI 1 is in KIU.

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52769: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:21:18 PM

[up] [up][up]OK, that design didn't originate from MKW. But I did some digging and the earliest that design was used was Double Dash, which again works towards my point, that these elements update and change with time. The Kid Icarus design is the design scheme of the Kid Icarus franchise now, and the redesigned enemies reflect that.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:21:30 PM by paperbritt

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52770: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:22:51 PM

I'm not talking about the Trophy.

I remember it in the actual gameplay being a bit more blocky. I'm looking for a proper image of it, but haven't found one yet.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#52771: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:23:10 PM

[up][up][up]

edited 5th Aug '14 7:23:19 PM by Konkfan7

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#52772: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:24:14 PM

[up][up][up]Though most of the enemies aren't especially redesigned- Monoeyes and Miks are extremely faithful to their NES sprites in Uprising, for example. It was really only the Eggplant Wizards and the Reapers that were redesigned, and even then it was more in an "update" kinda way. The main design highlights were still all there.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:24:48 PM by Pulse

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52774: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:25:37 PM

@Pulse: Well, that's good.

Still would prefer the more classic variations, but it's better than nothing.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:26:39 PM by Irene

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52775: Aug 5th 2014 at 7:26:28 PM

[up][up] [up]This too.

edited 5th Aug '14 7:26:44 PM by paperbritt


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