TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Super Smash Bros.

Go To

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#52726: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:07:20 PM

[up][up]Because while KIU may be a good game, it's not nearly as important as Sakurai seems to think?

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#52727: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:09:44 PM

As long as they bring something new and sweet to the table, I don't give a damn about the item's source.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#52728: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:11:43 PM

To be honest, I'm mostly worried about veteran items getting the shaft to make room.

edited 5th Aug '14 5:12:27 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#52729: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:13:42 PM

I wouldn't be worried about old items being cut so much, mostly because they brought back the Team Healer.

🏳️‍⚧️she/her | Vio Rhyse Alberia
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#52730: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:14:29 PM

Other than the Daybreak, Ogre Club, and Reflect Shield, are there more items (and other elements) than that from KIU? Because I feel like a couple of other series' have more items than three...

And the series only has two characters (so far; not including how Dark Pit fits in), so I don't really see the overexposure of KIU yet...

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#52731: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:16:25 PM

  • Drill Arm
  • Ore Club
  • X-Bomb
  • Daybreak
  • Back Shield
  • Killer Eye

I believe those are all the items, yep yep. I think the items are great, although the overrepresentation arguments have validity in the massive amount of Smash Run enemies.

Why a Boom Stomper over, say, Whomps?

🏳️‍⚧️she/her | Vio Rhyse Alberia
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#52732: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:18:07 PM

I thought the X-Bomb was a non-specified item... I guess I haven't seen on in KIU yet.

Either way, I see what folks are sayin' now.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#52733: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:22:20 PM

I don't see why any of the old items would be gone. We've seen most if not all of them anyway.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#52734: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:31:06 PM

I'm having this same discussion on Smashboards, and I swear, Uprising fans can be as annoying as Bronies sometimes...

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#52735: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:35:48 PM

Why a Boom Stomper over, say, Whomps?
We've already seen that multiple enemies will fill the same niches, though- Iridescent Glint Beetles and Poppants are both in, for example.

I sure said that!
Mudkipz Nya! Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Nya!
#52736: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:42:58 PM

[up][up] Tbh, I haven't had much problems with either Bronies or Uprising fans. I usually find the haters to cause more of a problem.

There is one thing inherited from KI:U that I kind of like though (apart from Palutena and the Daybreaker cannon); when an item is recently dropped, a small icon highlights it like what happens in KI:U. Will definitely be useful on 3DS Smash 4, seeing as it has a lot less screen space

[down] Never had a N64, so never got to play much of Smash 64. Still think it is a good idea they are returning it.

edited 5th Aug '14 5:46:51 PM by Mudkipz

Avatar by Pastel Mistress: http://pastelmistress.deviantart.com/
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#52737: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:45:22 PM

[up]...That's actually from 64.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52738: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:03:44 PM

I will never understand the Kid Icarus item complaint. To me it's as dumb as the people complaining about Assist Trophies returning from the last game: "Oh no! More Items!? this game is gunna have TOO MUCH content!"

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#52739: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:23:13 PM

[up]i'm not happy because Uprising wasn't that important or even that GOOD, but that's just me. I can't speak for everyone else.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52740: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:24:35 PM

It's not "Kid Icarus", it's Uprising only that's getting complaints. And it makes sense. Practically none of the other two games has gotten any real love in the series. I don't expect Myth and Monsters to get any(being America only), but the first game has got practically nothing.

There is definitely way too much bias towards that specific game.

There is a thing called "distribution", or in other words, trying to give each series tons of representation, not just one more than the rest. Not even Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, or Kirby went this far at any time whatsoever. They were near equal with each other at the very least.

Shadow?
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#52741: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:30:25 PM

To me, it's not that bad. It's just items. They're not that big of a deal. It's not like half the roster is KIU characters.

ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
For The Most Ridley-culous Cause
#52743: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:33:43 PM

Yeah, they had like, half Mario items in Brawl from what I recall. As long as a series has enough unique items to bring to the table, I'm fine with the items being from any series.

"And kung fu is a terrible way to run a company" - alliterator
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#52744: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:34:04 PM

Uprising was a big turn for an IP that had been ignored for decades. I don't see how the game that's not only the most recent, but also the one with most content in the trilogy, being represented the most is either unexpected or a bad thing.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#52745: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:41:37 PM

I'm a bit dissapointed with the new item... Not because it's Uprising again, but because I loathe Dragoon, and now there's another one.

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#52746: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:43:12 PM

The Mario items have been from various games as is, so it's not a good analogy. Even the Pokemon are better distributed among different Generations. Gen 1, 2, and 3 in Brawl(as well as 4) got tons of content as is.

Really, no single game got that much(when they have multiple games in the series) as is. Like... ever. Ice Climber is the only other "single game" and got very little content overall. The extreme bias is pretty annoying, and there's nothing unjustified about being annoyed that one particular game(when two others exist) has gotten an extremely high amount of content. New or not, that's pushing it a bit. I just hope we get some classic KI stuff as is. More than just Trophies alone, that is. Assist Trophies, Smash Run enemies, Regular Items...

Shadow?
paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52747: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:43:24 PM

[up] [up]Honestly, I agree with that. I always leave the Dragoon off because I don't wanna deal with having the entire match being a fucking chase to get these 3 dumb parts.

[up] Pretty much all of the NES Kid Icarus characters appeared in Uprising, so we're probably gonna get trophies and assist trophies of those too.

edited 5th Aug '14 6:47:39 PM by paperbritt

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#52748: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:45:30 PM

[up][up]There's not an especially large number of things from Kid Icarus to draw from that weren't also featured in Uprising. Even the enemy list made it through almost entirely unscathed- All that was lost was Minos, an enemy that was just a bronze ball that behaved like another enemy anyway.

I sure said that!
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#52749: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:46:18 PM

Uprising is one of, if not my favorite 3DS game. But seeing Smash go overboard on one not that big game gets tiring after awhile. There's something like 15 KI enemies in Smash Run. How many Mario or Pokemon enemies are there?

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#52750: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:48:48 PM

Mario items are rather prominent in Smash. The "too much Uprising" argument is invalid.


Total posts: 148,710
Top