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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#52526: Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:07:04 AM

[up][up][up]Sceptile isn't well-liked? That's news to me.

In other news (gonna copy/paste my post from another forum because I am lazy), I've been trying to design a moveset for a Rhythm Heaven character. It's surprisingly easy in some spots, expectedly difficult in others. It's hard to imagine how a rhythm-based gimmick would work. It stands to reason that the character would be more effective if attacks are performed in a rhythm, but should that rhythm go with the background music like it does in the RH games? The safest extent would seem to be to let the background music change during the final smash like it does for Donkey Kong's, but how far should it go?

Oh, and I think Marshal should be the RH character. Characters that look like him (and thus are likely of the same race) are commonplace in the series, and he's the mascot of Fever. He's also distinct in appearance, unlike Karate Joe.

edited 3rd Aug '14 10:08:08 AM by RavenKingSage

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#52527: Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:16:55 AM

Ya know, I was wondering, if DK Jr. were to somehow end up in Smash, would he be a retro character or just a newcomer?

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#52528: Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:18:48 AM

If I'm remembering correctly, the last time DK Jr. appeared as DK Jr. in a game that didn't recycle assets from the arcade game he debuted in was in Mario Tennis on the N64.

So fairly retro, yeah- Though I'd rather DK just have the unitard thing as an alternate costume.

edited 3rd Aug '14 10:19:21 AM by Pulse

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#52529: Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:19:06 AM

Characters I think are likely?

  • Shantae
  • Cranky Kong
  • Sceptile
  • Dixie Kong
  • Ice Climbers
  • Dark Pit
  • Bandana Dee

I might be missing some but I admit that that's due to not being completely familiar with Nintendo franchises despite the fact they are mostly all I play.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#52530: Aug 3rd 2014 at 10:21:50 AM

Shantae's third party and not by a big name company. I'd like her and everything but she's not likely at all.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#52531: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:00:20 AM

[up][up][up] But DK's so big, he'd look so weird in a baby's onesie.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#52532: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:08:09 AM

Shantae is third party, Cranky is out, Sceptile has too much competition, and Ice Climbers are vets. The other choices are fine though,

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#52533: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:08:47 AM

[up][up]It's not a onesie, it's a wrestling singlet. Get it right.

edited 3rd Aug '14 11:09:00 AM by BaffleBlend

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#52534: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:15:55 AM

There's only a few viable options if they're going for the starter trio. Venusaur is out due to Charizard already being in, Meganium is unpopular, Torterra is similar, Serperior doesn't work that well as a fighter, leaving two potential options: Chesnaught and Sceptile. Although, Chespin's existence as a Pokeball character would probably rule out Chesnaught.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#52535: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:22:20 AM

You ruled out the beautiful and agile Serperior for not making a good fighter while listing entirely different reasons for Venusaur and Torterra? I'm all for very unconventional fighters, but even I have to admit those two just wouldn't work.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#52536: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:28:51 AM

I like Serperior. I just don't think he'd work well.

And Venusaur would probably work, since Ivysaur was fine in Brawl. Torterra probably could too, he's just not popular.

edited 3rd Aug '14 11:29:46 AM by strawberryflavored

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#52537: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:34:10 AM

Venusaur is significantly larger than Ivysaur, though- It'd be like controlling a tank, and we all know those're kinda clumsy to handle.

Sceptile is not really a huge favorite, admittedly, but it has a bodytype that translates easily to Smash and a fancy Mega that Sakurai might've been privy to for a while now- I mean, c'mon, rocket pine tree tail is a thing now. Tell me it wouldn't be fun to shoot it as an enhanced Forward Smash after activating a Final Smash.

edited 3rd Aug '14 11:34:18 AM by Pulse

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#52538: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:38:26 AM

Huh. Mega Sceptile. Somehow able to take two things that look okay at best (Megas that couldn't just be normal evolutions and grass starters not named Chesnaught), and make the combination look pretty good.

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#52539: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:41:16 AM

ORAS makes Sceptile the most likely candidate for Smash since Sakurai probably won't want to repeat a gen which means Venusaur and Chesnaught are out.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#52540: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:51:45 AM

@Venusaur: Yeah, Ivysaur still has proportions that make it jumping around look relatively believable, since it's approximately spherical, not too big and consists of like 1/3 legs. Venusaur wouldn't just have to be pretty massive, but it's all covered in Thick Fat and it has that giant flower sticking out of its back... and of course Torterra would have similar problems, compounded by the fact that its legs don't even look capable of jumping. Unfortunately, because Torterra is a mistreated precious baby.

Meanwhile Serperior could slither around and soar through the air like a leaf in the wind. It could work exceptionally well. The thing that makes it unlikely is Snivy being a Pokeball mon. Unfortunately, because I'd really like to play it.

I'm not a big fan of Sceptile, but Sakurai has made less potentially interesting characters look fun to play. And I'll take any Grass-type representation I can get.

edited 3rd Aug '14 11:53:07 AM by Fawriel

drfurball Since: Jan, 2001
#52541: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:53:27 AM

But DK's so big, he'd look so weird in a baby's onesie.
It didn't look all that strange in the original Super Mario Kart.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#52542: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:56:08 AM

Too big for bottles onesies? You should see the size of Ridley's onesie.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#52543: Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:58:08 AM

Please tell me, I beg of you, exactly how big is Ridley's onesie? Is it big? Really big? God, I sure hope it's pretty damn big.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#52544: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:00:15 PM

grass starters not named Chesnaugh

I'd like to introduce you to Torterra, as you clearly have never seen one before.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#52546: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:01:18 PM

@Dr.: Because that was Jr. DK wasn't in MK until 64.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#52547: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:03:44 PM

[up][up][up]I believe I've already met Venusaur Redux. I'm pretty sure my roommate uses him as coffee table decoration.

[up]Donkey Kong Jr. In Mortal Kombat 64? Man, the 90s were weird.

[down]No, just some kind of zen garden. Not an actual Torterra. She has taste.

edited 3rd Aug '14 12:36:16 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#52548: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:05:08 PM

Oh, a torterra figurine? Cool.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#52549: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:32:47 PM

Generally, I've never been one for Fire types, starter-wise in Pokémon. Grass has always been my go-to starter, with Water for Gen II and VI (and the one in the latter generation could technically change type to Grass as well if it had it's hidden ability).

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#52550: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:37:14 PM

At the moment I'm just messing around with Enlong, on the subject related to a hypothetical Sceptile. I don't intend to dominate the thread wih starter talk, but if the thread wants to discuss it, so be it.


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