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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#52426: Aug 2nd 2014 at 4:35:55 PM

Looking at that one picture that is linked on the YMMV page, I feel really bad for Lucario. When people are going so far as to say "NOT BUYING WII U NO SUPPORTING NINTENDO FOREVER SAKURAI YOU SUCK BOO FURFAGS" in reaction to a reveal, you are the SSB series's #1 Woobie.

edited 2nd Aug '14 4:39:11 PM by RavenKingSage

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nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#52427: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:10:24 PM

[up] No give that to Lucina. I get that people don't like the fact that she's a clone, but some of the reactions towards her borders on the illogical, stupid and bizarrely sexist (one commented that For was turning into a "waifu simulator" because of her and the high volume of females in the game in general. WTF?)

Either way, Vocal Minority Hate Dumb speaking there...

edited 2nd Aug '14 5:11:51 PM by nigelstack345

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#52428: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:15:33 PM

Yeah, 12 female or female alt characters out of 36 characters is not exactly female dominated. If anything the game could use more female characters.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#52429: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:26:18 PM

Funny thing about that: I don't have any sources ready right now, but there've been studies showing that men tend to consider women to be equally represented when they actually make up more like a third or fourth of a crowd. Or that women are dominating the conversation when they actually only talk a third or forth of the total conversation time.

Wish I didn't have to rely on hearsay for this, but I really have to go to bed and I think the timing for all the "Super Smash Sisters" jokes is pretty interesting considering these statistics. (For the record, I'd already heard of those studies way before Smash 4.)

In any case it's not hard to believe and pretty certainly doesn't just apply to gender relations. Just look at any old racist being fearful of any variety of foreigners taking over when there's like 5 in the neighborhood.

edited 2nd Aug '14 5:29:14 PM by Fawriel

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52430: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:31:02 PM

I quite like that we have a lot more female fighters. I've actually found myself playing as female character a lot recently in games outside of MMOs. I almost always play as Rosalina in Mario Kart 8 and three of my planned four mains in Smash For are female (and the fourth can also be female if I wanted).

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#52431: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:37:48 PM

> more female characters
> waifu simulator

What.

edited 2nd Aug '14 5:38:44 PM by fillerdude

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#52432: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:39:16 PM

That is just plain sexist.

And yes, I personally did want more female characters in Smash myself. There were hardly any before this, and I'm happy that we are getting more.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52433: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:46:22 PM

We went from 4(...5...) to 7(...8...), its not even a big leap.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#52434: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:47:47 PM

Yeah, this "female overtaking" thing is ridiculous. Oh no, more people of the opposite sex are playable characters. Whatever shall we dooooooo?

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#52435: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:50:05 PM

"Anything a Bro can do, a goddess can do better."evil grin

Seriously, people are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
Geomancer
#52436: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:50:49 PM

... Seriously? More female characters in this is a good thing. What dumb people.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#52438: Aug 2nd 2014 at 5:59:49 PM

I kinda dislike Lucina as a separate character from Marth because not only is she almost identical to Marth, but her only difference from him is something really obscure that 95% of players doesn't even know about. I certainly had no idea that Marth's sword did more damage at the edge than at the base until Sakurai mentioned it following Lucina's reveal, and I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't know about it either. When they start playing the game they won't say "Oh, Lucina's attacks don't have the sweet and sour spots that Marth's do", they're gonna say "Wait, Lucina is 100% identical to Marth, why is she a separate character?"

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#52439: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:01:50 PM

My brother assumed that nearly half the characters in a game he used to play (League Of Legends) were female, when in fact the ratio is 40:79, female to male. Maybe people are just bad in general at seeing gender equality.

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#52440: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:09:36 PM

Looks like Lucina is turning into what Wolf became after Brawl: Was a common request before the game came out, became the The Scrappy once people saw him as a clone and claimed he was a "waist of a slot", and then claim his head is first on the chopping block once the new game is announced.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52441: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:10:08 PM

[up][up][up]Well its not like people would care anyway, even some people who do know...don't really care. They dislike clones regardless of the minor differences.

edited 2nd Aug '14 6:10:28 PM by randomness4

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#52442: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:12:12 PM

[up][up]I'm actually hoping Wolf stays over Falco, due to being more different from Fox and being a villain instead of yet another Starfox hero.

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#52443: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:14:50 PM

Yeah. I'd prefer Wolf to Falco. He's more different.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#52444: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:20:50 PM

Agreed. I'm fine with clones that have notable differences.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#52445: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:31:10 PM

-facepalm-

Lucina is an ascended alternate costume. She took almost no effort to develop, so she's a freebie. There is no reason to complain about the inclusion of an "Easy Mode Marth" when that character is not only a popular request, but a bonus who isn't stealing any slots.

edited 2nd Aug '14 6:31:29 PM by RavenKingSage

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#52446: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:31:17 PM

Wolf's more of a different moveset with similar specials , but eh.

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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA
#52447: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:33:11 PM

On the subject of space animals, I think both should return. They each have their merits. But if I had to choose one or the other, I'd definitely go with Wolf.

edited 2nd Aug '14 6:33:32 PM by RavenKingSage

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52448: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:39:52 PM

So much wolf love...with this much love, he won't "...be the one to take you down."

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#52449: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:41:24 PM

Yeah, I'd definitely keep Wolf over Falco, but keeping both is nice too. Giving them all unique Final Smashes would be a good idea, too.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#52450: Aug 2nd 2014 at 6:41:26 PM

(Also Krystal)

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