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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#51751: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:06:26 AM

Ike was a bit slow, but he was overall fun to use.

Also, here's a parody of Sakurai from a few years ago. Wonder how the guy is now?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#51752: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:08:36 AM

I find it odd that Mario, DK and Bowser have the same running speed.
[down]Such a tie just makes Mario seem slower than I might have thought.

I wonder how Sonic may have been changed. I might like to see him get slightly faster.

edited 26th Jul '14 1:11:02 AM by wanderlustwarrior

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#51753: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:09:54 AM

DK's a fellow platformer star and Bowser couldn't afford to be Ganon slow.

Hell, Ganon couldn't afford to be Ganon slow.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#51754: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:12:40 AM

I bet Sonic is still the fastest character in the game (minus Palutena using lightweight).

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#51755: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:12:55 AM

Requesting that Sonic be faster is like requesting that Mr. Game and Watch be lighter. Enough is enough.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#51756: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:15:20 AM

Sonic should be the fastest, obviously, but his speed shouldn't be too much greater than the second-fastest.

Mr. Game & Watch did pretty well for himself in Brawl, so I anticipate he'll see relatively fewer changes than some of the others, though I do hope he gets a new Up Smash, so that 100% of his attacks are from a different game- I'm thinking he should stab with the Sword from the G&W Zelda.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#51757: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:16:16 AM

There seemed to be a noticeable difference between Sonic and Captain Falcon in Brawl.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#51758: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:20:11 AM

Because there was.

I think it was something ridiculous, like Falcon being about 1.8 times as fast as the Mario/DK/Bowser/R.O.B. bracket while Sonic was 2.5 times faster.

I may have forgotten the precise factor, but point being Sonic was demonstrably way out in front in all the foot races.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#51759: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:22:07 AM

Bunny-Sonic could outrun Big Blue, or some crazy shit like that.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#51760: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:27:37 AM

So what did you think of the Sakurai parody?

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#51761: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:27:37 AM

Hmm...How about Bunny-Palutena using Lightweight?

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#51762: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:28:40 AM

Sounds like a fun parlor trick but unlikely to have much actual use beyond goofy stunts.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#51763: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:28:49 AM

Ike was a Lightning Bruiser in both Tellius games
I wasn't aware of this, actually. Still have yet to play either of those games...

I was just assuming because it would fit into a neat pattern. Ike is the slow, strong one, Lucina is the fast, but weak one, and Marth is the the average one.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#51764: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:33:47 AM

Ike's only iffy-to-bad growths in Path of Radiance are Magic, which he doesn't especially care about, and Luck, boosting crit odds of enemies against him, which would be a problem if anything could hit him in the first place.

His Speed growth took a hit in RD and dropped from "good" to "passable" though, so again, he's more of a Mighty Glacier there.

Of course, that's skipping over how Marth is kinda fragile in his source games or how Lucina is potentially the most powerful Lord in the series in almost every respect, depending on who her mother is and what skills she's equipped with.

edited 26th Jul '14 1:35:01 AM by Pulse

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#51765: Jul 26th 2014 at 1:35:18 AM

Ah. So, given they're using the RD design, it would make sense.

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#51766: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:14:21 AM

I don't know if this has been mentioned before now, but I don't think any of you have realised the most important thing here:

Bowser has an actual running animation

He doesn't just scoot along the ground like a toy truck

This is amazing

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#51767: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:18:17 AM

When I was a kid, I found it really odd in Jackie Chan Adventures how whenever someone gains superspeed, they will stand perfectly still, and yet they will somehow shift forward at subsonic speeds. Bowser was like that.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#51768: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:18:42 AM

Sad. I liked watching Bowser scoot along the ground like a toy truck.

I never understood how, but it was unique.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#51769: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:18:54 AM

[up][up][up] It has been mentioned. And it is indeed amazing.

Shit, I might actually have to find a way to get Smash 4 now. Bowser was always one of my mains, but I've always struggled with him being lower on the tier list. If he's definitely been buffed count me hyped.

edited 26th Jul '14 9:19:08 AM by Watchtower

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#51770: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:25:16 AM

Should probably wait and see if he (or anyone else) gets any tweaks before the games are released though. Anything could happen between now and then.

That said, I like how he looked yesterday. He was never all that slow in the Mario-verse anyway.

edited 26th Jul '14 9:25:56 AM by Customer

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#51771: Jul 26th 2014 at 9:41:57 AM

That running animation... is it just me or is it a reference to the finale of the final boss in Super Mario 3D Land?

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#51772: Jul 26th 2014 at 10:08:54 AM

So JC almost dropped a leak during the tournament yesterday. Could mean either Falco is back, or that Fox's blaster has a stun customization on it. Or both.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#51773: Jul 26th 2014 at 10:29:22 AM

Or neither.

"Just like Falco has"
"Just like Falco used to have"
"Just like Falco, which is useful as he isn't around anymore"

You can replace "Falco" with "Wolf", as well.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#51774: Jul 26th 2014 at 10:54:36 AM

"He actually does have stun lasers as a moveset option."

Or something.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#51775: Jul 26th 2014 at 10:55:36 AM

Wait, Marth is no longer a Fragile Speedster?

I seriously hope Lucina takes up that spot. If not then I may be in a bit of trouble.

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