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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#51076: Jul 18th 2014 at 1:35:00 PM

Regarding Waluigi, I think there's something to be said about how little personality he has actually increasing his popularity. Who is he? Where does he come from? What's his relationship to Wario? Nobody knows; he is a mystery encased in an enigma wrapped in purple overalls.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#51077: Jul 18th 2014 at 1:40:11 PM

someday, we're going to get a mid-quel game about waluigi and his exact relationship to wario, and in the process wario's entire character will be devastated and no one will come out of the game liking waluigi.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#51078: Jul 18th 2014 at 1:40:46 PM

Speaking of him, what are people expecting of Wario in the fourth game? I've heard some speculating going around that people think he's been tweaked to better emulate his Wario Land self instead of his WarioWare self, but I doubt that's the case.

edited 18th Jul '14 1:41:26 PM by Customer

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#51079: Jul 18th 2014 at 1:48:17 PM

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I think precedent will show that people will more likely despise that game instead of Waluigi, and collectively choose to excise it from continuity, both for its portrayal of Waluigi and it's bevy of plot holes in regards to the Mario series as a whole.

And everyone will decide that Toadsworth was a better character before said game.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#51081: Jul 18th 2014 at 1:57:54 PM

/shrug

my experience with people complaining about mom is that they come away hating father and step-father by extension.

but if what you say is true then thats nice.

edited 18th Jul '14 1:58:29 PM by Tarsen

DarthTaco from where the wild things are. Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#51082: Jul 18th 2014 at 1:58:07 PM

People like Waluigi because of his memetic status.

Stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1epq4seJa2c

And if you need proof that he would be awesome in Smash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFI101fzXbg&list=UUuOk-tw6c1_TdJ1t39RHrhg

(Yes, that is a fan-made mod, and Ninty likely wouldn't give him as many references, but basically, he's a blank canvas like Captain Falcon was before SSB. They could do whatever they want with him.)

edited 18th Jul '14 1:58:45 PM by DarthTaco

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#51083: Jul 18th 2014 at 2:18:13 PM

Why is Waluigi's relation to Wario a mystery here?

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#51084: Jul 18th 2014 at 2:20:46 PM

It was a joke.

edited 18th Jul '14 2:21:08 PM by Nap1100

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#51085: Jul 18th 2014 at 2:21:25 PM

If you ask me, Zarek is entirely right.

I used to hate Waluigi but somewhat warmed up to him. Not enough to want him playable in Smash Bros or anything, but still. I do like the way he's just this random dude who strives to be as unpleasant as possible. That's how I'd characterize him. Wario is this unpleasant, powerful, greey, selfish brute, and Waluigi is just this guy who admires him and wants some of that sweet villain cake for himself, too, and so strives to be eeeeviiiiil but can't manage to be anything much more than a highly obnoxious creep.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#51086: Jul 18th 2014 at 2:35:10 PM

[up][up]Jokes don't register through the giant labyrinth of comprehension...

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Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#51087: Jul 18th 2014 at 2:42:33 PM

Speaking of Waluigi, Smash 4 seems to consider him a Wario character now, if the Wario emblem next to him in the April direct is of any indication.

Compare with Brawl, which considered him a Mario character instead.

It's interesting.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#51088: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:03:16 PM

It seems to be just a pointless change, really.

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Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#51089: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:09:38 PM

If nothing else, I guess it confirms Wario's returning.

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#51090: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:14:26 PM

Here's something: On Nintendo's own page for Smash 3D, The game is rated E10+ for "cartoon violence, comic mischief and mildly suggestive themes".

Now, beyond the wonder on how Smash 3D managed a lower rating than the average T, there's also the fact that there's no tag for "crude humor". Provided it's not just a preliminary rating based only on currently-revealed info, could this mean Wario's moveset is ditching the Wario Waft?

edited 18th Jul '14 3:15:09 PM by TechPowah

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#51091: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:17:48 PM

That was one of the reasons given for the speculation I mentioned above. I wouldn't mind if they replaced it though; I was terrible at hitting with it...

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#51092: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:18:17 PM

Is there a reason Lucina isn't listed as a "newcomer" on the official site?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#51093: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:19:35 PM

[up]Its because she is actually listed...?

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#51094: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:20:46 PM

No, I mean like how Robin, Pac-Man, Megaman, etc have larger boxes with the word "newcomer" in big bold text next to them. Lucina doesn't have that.

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#51095: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:22:07 PM

She does on the Mobile Site. I think it's just because while Lucina herself is also new, Robin is meant to be the "official" new Fire Emblem character.

edited 18th Jul '14 3:22:14 PM by TechPowah

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#51096: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:22:39 PM

She is. It's on her page. The most reasonable answer I've seen is that they couldn't fit two Newcomer boxes on the page without displacing Falcon and making the whole thing look uneven.

Of course, it could also be because she's the "lucky" extra character we got while Robin was intended to be the focus.

edited 18th Jul '14 3:23:49 PM by Customer

DarthTaco from where the wild things are. Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#51097: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:23:06 PM

[down]Yes, I was missing the point. What I mean't was her banner isn't larger than the veterans because she didn't ger her own poster.

edited 18th Jul '14 3:25:13 PM by DarthTaco

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#51098: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:23:59 PM

She doesn't have a poster because it's on Robin's page and they're sharing the newcomer art.

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#51099: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:27:42 PM

[up][up]Neither did the Mii Fighters, but I see your point. I didn't notice the other Newcomers had their posters in their boxes as well.

edited 18th Jul '14 3:28:08 PM by Customer


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