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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#50951: Jul 17th 2014 at 5:29:12 PM

Dark Link and Dark Pit were already implemented as alt color schemes in Brawl, so there wouldn't really be a need to make them as clone characters — they can just be alt costumes with different voices. There's not a lot that's significantly different about them that would require another character slot.

...I mean, I guess you could say the same of Lucina. But that's kinda different, since Lucy and Marth are totally separate people, while Dark Pit and Dark Link are basically clones. Literal clones, I mean, not fighting game clones.

Greninja'd.

edited 17th Jul '14 5:29:47 PM by Zarek

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#50952: Jul 17th 2014 at 5:39:32 PM

Unless Dark Link or Dark Pit would get different additions to attacks...they'll stay the way they are. If Lucina didn't have the attack differences she got, she would've stayed an alt. The attribute differences in attacks and movement is the only reason to make an alt. separate

edited 17th Jul '14 5:40:13 PM by randomness4

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#50953: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:05:16 PM

He wouldn't have brought it up if Lucina was the only example.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#50954: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:10:15 PM

I'm hoping that he does something similar with DK characters. I find it unlikely though - he said that Lucina started development as an alt. I seriously doubt that Dixie started out like that if she's present.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#50955: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:59:42 PM

Clearly a Shulk trailer should have him fighting an army of ROBs.

edited 17th Jul '14 6:59:53 PM by beorc

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#50956: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:07:16 PM

I was actually wondering if a potential Shulk trailer could feature other members of our current Sm4sh cast attempting to disarm a large number of Subspace Bombs.

As far as I can tell, Shulk and Ike are the only characters that would be capable of disarming Subspace Bombs. Maybe some others as well. Captain Falcon doesn't really disarm them, he's just practical and keeps the R.O.B.s from arming them in the first place.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#50957: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:38:39 PM

So what are the thoughts on Lucina being playable around these here parts?

Places like Game Faqs, Know Your Meme and Tumblr seem to hate her for being a clone, not to mention Sakurai's reasoning for making her an entirely separate character, which they say is "laziness".

edited 17th Jul '14 7:39:27 PM by LDragon2

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#50958: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:40:02 PM

Basically the same.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#50959: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:40:11 PM

[up][up]Well, good for them. So glad you came here to tell us.

It's not like she took a lot of time to make, so I'm not concerned at all.

edited 17th Jul '14 7:40:51 PM by edvedd

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#50960: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:42:18 PM

[up][up][up]I love that she is playable but I actually like clones since most of my favorite characters are clones or started out as clones those characters are: Luigi, Falco, and Young Link.

The only clone that I don't like is Ganondorf and the reason is he shouldn't be a clone of Captain Falcon he should play more like he does in the Zelda series.

edited 17th Jul '14 7:42:44 PM by Halberdier17

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#50961: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:42:27 PM

Hell, if this means we get a set of alts for Marth and Lucina, I'm down. If not, I'm still down. Its just a slightly modified alt. Not like he lost much dev time.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#50962: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:42:38 PM

I consider her a nice bonus. I mean, she was already in as an alt, so it's not like they made her model for the purpose of just increasing the character count via clones.

And seriously, knock it off already with the drama importing. It's irritating.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#50963: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:42:43 PM

If anything, she's the opposite of lazy considering Sakurai decided to give her her own slot and attributes over being a costume for Marth.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#50964: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:44:41 PM

If she was the only new FE rep and she was a clone then the accusations of "laziness" would be justified, but as it is, we got Robin, who looks really cool, so Lucina's just a bonus. A welcome one, too, since I do like her.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#50965: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:45:32 PM

I'm always fine with new characters, even if I never use them.

It's the having that's important, not the using.

Course I don't play Fire Emblem so I know next to nothing about the series. If it were Isaac or Krystal though, then I could jump on the hype (backlash) wagon.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#50966: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:46:39 PM

Lucina is one of my favorite characters from Awakening, so I am definitely happy she is playable, clone or not (especially if Laura Bailey is still voicing her). waii

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#50967: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:47:13 PM

The Chorus Men trailer should open with all the characters in attendance of a giant opera house. The conductor takes a bow as the curtain lifts up and this start playing. The Chorus Men individually "Ah!" as the spotlight shines on them to the beat of the song. After the "TOGETHER NOW!" they all "AHHHH!" to the audience, blowing them to the back wall of the opera house and the newcomer splash appears...

CHORUS MEN gives a shoutout!

In-game footage happens and at the end of the trailer, the conductor takes another bow as the curtain draws down from the ceiling to a still reeling audience.

@Lucina: Love her in Awakening. Love her in Smash. People hate her for being a clone, who gives a shit?

edited 17th Jul '14 7:49:04 PM by nigelstack345

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#50969: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:48:26 PM

Seriously, from the way people talk, you'd think Robin didn't exist at all. Of course nobody cares that we got an interesting and mechanically unique fighter; there's a clone so the game is automatically Ruined Forever!!!

[up][up]I'm really indifferent to the chorus men either way.

edited 17th Jul '14 7:49:00 PM by Perseus

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#50970: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:48:36 PM

I feel like with Customizable moves, clone movesets aren't that big of an issue anymore.

Like, "Oh now she has the same Standard Special!" OK just make hers the dashy one and keep Marths the normal one.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#50971: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:49:30 PM

Where there's no problem, there's no problem.

But when there is a problem, there is a problem.

Which means, people would rather talk about something that makes them mad than things they can all settle on. ;p

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#50972: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:51:12 PM

Man, now I'm actually hoping they reveal Wario today so everyone can shut up for a bit. tongue

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#50973: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:54:07 PM

[up]Is there really any doubt he won't be in? I mean, Waluigi is already an assist trophy.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#50974: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:56:10 PM

Oh, I'm not concerned.

We'll be getting some WAAAAAAAAA soon enough.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#50975: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:57:30 PM

I have a feeling Wario and Meta Knight will be the veteran reveals for next month and the last characters shown before the game releases.


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