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#50876: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:29:26 AM

I'm curious to see how different Lucina is from Marth. That translations mentions her having the same strength, speed, and special attacks as him which seems to imply her normal attacks are different.

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#50877: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:41:50 AM

Just the balancing of the sword, a la Marth/Roy, except that unlike Roy being opposite, her sword is balanced throughout the blade for same attack power. No strong zoning attacks, but no weak up-close attacks either.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#50878: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:02:41 AM

In other words, just like every other sword-user in the series. In fact, I don't know why they did that sweetspot mechanic with Marth and Roy.

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#50879: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:17:33 AM

To differentiate them, i assume. All of the clones had subtle differences even in Melee, where the practice reached its height.

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#50880: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:21:21 AM

I think they were different enough from Link already and didn't need those sweetspots.

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#50881: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:23:17 AM

No, to differentiate them from each other, i mean.

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#50882: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:37:26 AM

Depending on exactly how much of a differential there is in how big and how strong the sweetspot is compared to the rest of the hitbox, Lucina might actually be a better performer.

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#50883: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:42:06 AM

I wouldn't say Dark Pit is a lock, because Lucina is a totally different character from Marth in terms of voice, appearance etc. Whereas Dark Pit is just Pit in a different paint job. May as well just make him a paint job.

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#50884: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:43:25 AM

I think that was what they were intimating- That, while he'd call for a different voice track, he could just be an alt.

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#50886: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:49:05 AM

From what that thing said, it looked like Chrom didn't even have a chance.

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#50887: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:51:58 AM

While Dark Pit is possible, he only works if Sakurai can make him look fairly different from regular Pit. I'm not worried about the moveset bit, since it's not that hard, possibly make him closer to his Brawl self. But they look exactly alike. Some major differences need to exist between the two's physical appearances. Then sure, it'd work.(albeit, I prefer Medusa, but eh)

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#50888: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:52:22 AM

If anyone stole Chrom's spot (lol, implying that he deserved a spot in the first place), it was Robin. Not Lucina.

Dark Pit's in a bit of an odd spot. He could definitely be a bonus character given his popularity, but on the other hand, he is a literal clone of Pit. The concept was born from Pit's "fallen angel" palette swap in Brawl. He could be either an alt or a bonus.

edited 17th Jul '14 7:52:55 AM by RavenKingSage

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#50889: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:55:25 AM

Oh... I thought that Palette Swap actually was Dark Pit.

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#50890: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:55:42 AM

Considering those comments about alts having different names, I'm leaning towards Dark Pit not having his own spot. If that means we can get a Palutena clone Medusa, that's even better.

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#50891: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:55:59 AM

Yeah if anything Robin took Chrom's spot. Lucina was going to be an Alternate costume for Marth but Sakurai changed his mind about having completely different characters be alternate versions of somebody else, so he made Lucina play slightly different.

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#50892: Jul 17th 2014 at 7:56:27 AM

... I'm not seeing what would be hard about making a Pittoo alt costume for Pit that wields the Silver Bow and has different voice clips and that's it.

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#50893: Jul 17th 2014 at 8:03:31 AM

[up]I think that was about Pittoo as his own character, not as an alt.

It'd be harder to differentiate than Mario and Luigi's colors, I think.

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#50894: Jul 17th 2014 at 8:10:53 AM

Going by Sakurai's quote regarding why Lucina is a seperate character slot, I was satin that Dark Pit could be a costume for Pit

In such cases, even if two characters' names and voices differ, as long as they function the same way, I assign them as alternate costumes.

Dark Pit's name and voice may differ (voice, bit voice actor, mind), and he is a different character, rather than an alternate version of the same character (as with WFT, Villager, and Robin) but his combat abilities are identical, so he could be a Pit costume with a different voice pack. I'd be cool with that.

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#50895: Jul 17th 2014 at 8:17:26 AM

Alternate voicepacks? I'm down for that.

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#50896: Jul 17th 2014 at 8:26:17 AM

We already have it- Male and Female Robin return with their default voice actors and the Wii Fit Trainers seems to reuse clips from the appropriate trainer's calls in their source games.

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#50897: Jul 17th 2014 at 9:31:49 AM

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#50899: Jul 17th 2014 at 9:56:39 AM

If they do alternate voices, will they FINALLY give Peach's Daisy palette Daisy's voice?

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#50900: Jul 17th 2014 at 9:58:34 AM

[up]They probably will, but "HI I'M DAISY" is the last thing I want to hear in Smash.

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