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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#50726: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:27:33 PM

Well no kidding the male's going to be the default, but they're certainly getting closer to equal billing than anyone else.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#50727: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:30:01 PM

To be sure we're on the same page, I didn't mean to seriously "correct" your pronoun use or anything, I ... okay actually I'm not sure what I was doing there, but I had fun with it while it lasted, haha.

HAPPY ABOUT ROBIN!

MAN I HOPE I CAN GIVE HER PINK HER BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL SHE LOOK SIMILAR TO SAILOR LEO'S CHARACTER BUT I CAN BASICALLY PLAY AS LUKA MEGURINE YO YO YO

PARTY ALL UP IN HERE okay yeah I'm gonna go to bed now, good night everyone.

[up] ONE LAST THING, the demo forced me to play as male Robin and I'm so cross with it for that.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:31:00 PM by Fawriel

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#50729: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:34:34 PM

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50730: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:34:40 PM

So, d'ya think they're locking to the type 1 male and female builds for Robin, or will we see the shota, buff guy, loli and fanservice builds, too?

I sure said that!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#50731: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:34:49 PM

Hey, if Chunky is an Assist like some people said he was, ya think Candy, Lanky, Tiny and Swanky could also be assists?

edited 16th Jul '14 3:35:19 PM by Rinsankajugin

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#50732: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:35:53 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] Things like "default" genders kinda already means one is favored over the other. And if it was just the official art, I'd agree with you, but it's the way Male Robin was featured for the majority of the trailer (and alongside Lucina) + the official art + Yuusuke Kozaki's art + Sakurai's wordings regarding the female Robin, etc. etc.

Whereas for Miis we were always told that they were of your design and most of the featured Miis were of Nintendo executives and celebrities, so I see no issue in referring to them with a gender neutral pronoun or both male and female pronouns in the first place.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:36:33 PM by Folt

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#50733: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:36:50 PM

[up][up][up] I doubt the other builds will be seen. Making Robin shorter or taller would mess with hitboxes.

[up] I'd be willing to bet that there will be an equal number of male Robin colors and female Robin colors in the game, though.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:38:01 PM by Enlong

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#50734: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:39:59 PM

[up] That's what I think will be the case for all fighters with the option for playing another gender.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50735: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:41:08 PM

[up][up]Female build 1 was a full head shorter in Awakening itself, though, so they're obviously not opposed to altering such things.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#50736: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:41:11 PM

[up][up][up]There probably will be, but at the same time I'll point out that there's an even number of Ice Climber combinations but it's pretty clear that Popo leading with Nana following is the default.

I guess I consider Villager's, WFT's, and Robin's "default" genders to be male, female, and male, respectively, but at the same time I really don't care much about gender so this kind of debate is meaningless to me.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:41:23 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#50737: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:41:28 PM

The male is used in those things for the same reason the male character is always favored in promotional material, and I'll leave it at that. Either way, since there's no such bias in Awakening itself, I've always used "they" unless referring to a specific version of them, and I see no reason to treat Awakening's Robin and Smash's Robin as different characters.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:44:30 PM by Perseus

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#50738: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:41:43 PM

[up][up][up]Awakening didn't have hitboxes...

edited 16th Jul '14 3:41:54 PM by Clarste

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#50739: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:45:50 PM

Resizing the Medium Female Build to match the Medium Male Build (or vice-versa) is one thing, but resizing, say, the Large Female Build to match the Medium Female Build kinda defeats the purpose of having those different builds in the first place.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50740: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:46:36 PM

[up][up]Well, that's what I'm talking about- I could at least see female build 3 easily.

... At the very least, I hope we get some variety in the hair style and color and the faces.

[up]Alright, yeah, it was a dumb idea.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:47:10 PM by Pulse

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#50741: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:47:37 PM

[up][up][up][up] And I see no reason why I shouldn't refer to Robin as a male, nor why male is not getting a higher billing than the female. I think we're going to have to disagree on this one.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:47:48 PM by Folt

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50742: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:49:00 PM

One thing I will point out is that female robin has a render whereas male Wii Fit Trainer and female Villager don't.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#50743: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:55:56 PM

You can use whichever pronoun you want to refer to Robin, since there's a Robin for both.

What isn't cool is saying that someone's wrong for using a particular one.

I'm not saying anyone here has done the latter. Just a good rule to follow.

edited 16th Jul '14 3:56:19 PM by Enlong

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#50744: Jul 16th 2014 at 3:58:14 PM

...wasnt pretty much the first thing said "you can use whatever pronoun you want"?

how did this turn into a multi-page debate from that?

edited 16th Jul '14 3:59:12 PM by Tarsen

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#50745: Jul 16th 2014 at 4:00:12 PM

I just wanted to talk about DK reps, but the FE monsoon engulfed everything.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#50746: Jul 16th 2014 at 4:00:17 PM

This would all be a moot issue if the English language (and many other languages) didn't have pointless gendered pronouns in the first place. tongue

Regarding DK reps, I do think we'll get a third one. I see both Dixie and Rool having roughly equal chances, personally. Dixie has recent relevancy, while Rool is stupidly popular in Japan. Both have plenty of moveset options.

edited 16th Jul '14 4:01:32 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#50747: Jul 16th 2014 at 4:00:22 PM

Last post two pages back probably started it and then it escalated from there.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#50748: Jul 16th 2014 at 4:02:33 PM

I'm just personally fond of female Robin, so the implication that she's less important kind of irks me...

Not that it's a big deal. Definitely wasn't trying to tell anyone off.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#50750: Jul 16th 2014 at 4:05:26 PM

[up][up] Only reason I debated it with you is because I find that male Robin getting top billing is as likely as not and I had (and still have) reason to believe so. I do believe Female Robin is getting higher billing than the rest of the other fighters with a gender-choice.

edited 16th Jul '14 4:05:40 PM by Folt

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