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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#50576: Jul 16th 2014 at 12:56:10 AM

Wow, shots fired at Shulk. I'll just agree to disagree and avoid bringing this conversation further off track.

I don't get the "Robin's tome changes with each special attack" part. Does that mean that every time a special attack is used the tome in their hands changes? That seems random.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#50577: Jul 16th 2014 at 12:57:24 AM

Oh, so I am guessing each tome is tied to his special moves. Now the question is how his lighting tomes work. Do you have to charge the tomes up or do they get progressively stronger until you have to discard the tome.

[up] Why is that random? He is holding the tome he just used. It makes sense. It is sort of like Ratchet or Jax in Playstation All-stars Battle Royale: they hold the weapon they just used.

edited 16th Jul '14 12:59:37 AM by TPPR10

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#50579: Jul 16th 2014 at 12:59:16 AM

[up][up]I mean if that comment means that each attack with a tome brings another different one immediately after.

Then again, they could come up in a certain order.

Then again, I might be horribly misinterpreting this.

edited 16th Jul '14 12:59:52 AM by Elbruno

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50580: Jul 16th 2014 at 12:59:22 AM

I'm guessing this means that Robin switches to a Thunder, Fire, Wind or Dark tome based on their last Special attack, and that may influence how their tilts and aerials and so one work- We've seen Robin use a few attacks along the lines of "slash and then hit with fireball/wind cutter/etc" already.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#50581: Jul 16th 2014 at 12:59:23 AM

I don't get the "Robin's tome changes with each special attack" part. Does that mean that every time a special attack is used the tome in their hands changes? That seems random.

Presumably it means that when you cast Arcfire it switches to a fire tome, and when you cast Elwind it switches to a wind tome, etc. They just hold the tome of the last spell they cast, until they cast something else. Which is how it works in the Fire Emblem games.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#50582: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:00:21 AM

[up][up]&[up]That makes sense.

edited 16th Jul '14 1:00:55 AM by Elbruno

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50583: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:00:27 AM

Robin is cheating and somehow has six inventory slots, in other words.tongue

That or Chrom lent them his invisible convoy backpack.

edited 16th Jul '14 1:00:50 AM by Pulse

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#50584: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:04:31 AM

I think it's gonna be kinda-sorta-not-really like Vaan's weapon switching mechanic from Dissidia Final Fantasy; Using a special make that element's tome appear, and it influences your normals that don't use just the Levin/Bronze Sword until you either use a different special or the weapon decay kicks in and Robin has to toss the tome.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#50585: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:06:54 AM

[up][up]They're already cheating by using Dark magic as a Tactician.

...I hope they use Excalibur instead of Rexcalibur. I can't stand that name.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50586: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:07:19 AM

[up][up]I'm assuming it'll be that weaker spells have more uses in addition to less charge time, just as a Thunder or Fire or Wind tome has more uses than the El- or Arc tomes and how Thoron, Rexcalibur and Bolganone have a full twenty less than the most basic tomes of their element.

edited 16th Jul '14 1:07:52 AM by Pulse

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#50587: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:09:00 AM

[up][up]They could have somehow learnt Shadowgift. Perhaps it's a consolation prize for losing the mark of Grima?

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#50588: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:09:10 AM

Oh, I guess Robin's damage meter will also have weapon decay counters for the sword and the currently equipped tome?

edited 16th Jul '14 1:09:19 AM by TechPowah

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50589: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:10:43 AM

Possibly, but I'm guessing it'll be more directly visible- Like, the Levin Sword will start out covered in streaks of electricity and will lose them as it gets used more and more, or the tome will have its pages flipped more or something.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#50590: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:22:27 AM

I personally think that the way tomes work is that they appear as his four special moves but the tome you hold might change few of his normals. Like I think his A mash has him doing two sword swipes and then using one of his tomes like fire tome has him summoning a flame and wind tome summoning bunch of razor winds.

Also, his lighting tome does seem to be chargeable. I wonder if he loses more durability on it if he charges it up. However, I think with other tomes, he only has the ones we have seen.

edited 16th Jul '14 1:27:29 AM by TPPR10

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#50591: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:34:12 AM

I'm 99.99% sure he just meant the Levin Sword can come out during normals and Smashes, but the line about "you can even activate these moves in midair!" is making me wonder the tiniest amount if Robin can use aerial Smashes.

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#50592: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:45:08 AM

We are talking the line in the second picture where Sakurai says "By the way, Robin’s tome changes with each special attack."

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#50593: Jul 16th 2014 at 1:49:41 AM

Oh. OK...tongue

Like I said above, I think the way it works is that using a special that uses a certain magic type switches the tome to the special's respective element, and Robin's normals also change to reflect that tome's element until either you switch tomes or the current tome's decay makes Robin chuck it.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#50594: Jul 16th 2014 at 2:01:02 AM

So everyone thinks it works in exactly the same way. Good to know.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50596: Jul 16th 2014 at 2:25:55 AM

Y'know... I wonder if Robin is locked to Nosferatu for Dark Magic.

For those who haven't played FE:A, Dark Magic, unlike the rest of the spells, isn't a simple graduation in terms of power for each rank. Instead, the tomes mostly have unusual effects- Flux is nothing special, beyond being strong for a E Rank tome, but Nosferatu drains health, Ruin has an extremely high critical hit rate, Mire can attack from long distances and Waste attacks twice in a row. The remaining spell, Goetia, is merely very powerful, technically the strongest tome in the game, but outdone by Valflame thanks to that tome also boosting the Magic stat.

edited 16th Jul '14 2:29:44 AM by Pulse

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#50597: Jul 16th 2014 at 2:27:56 AM

There's also Aversa's Night but that's just a more powerful Nosferatu.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#50598: Jul 16th 2014 at 2:31:24 AM

...and Grima's Truth. Technically.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#50599: Jul 16th 2014 at 2:33:09 AM

... Well, okay, yeah.

But the spells seem to be locked to the basic chains in Smash, so Robin uses Thunder, Elthunder, Arcthunder and Thoron, but not Katarina's Bolt or Micaiah's Pyre or something.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#50600: Jul 16th 2014 at 2:33:28 AM

Eh, Grima's Truth is only used by the Big Bad and The Dragon tongue


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