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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#50051: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:02:23 AM

I really don't think we'll be seeing a new Yoshi character. That would most likely draw more shrugs than anything else, since the only one that's memorable or popular is Yoshi himself.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#50052: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:03:19 AM

HOLY CRAP I DON'T EVEN CARE THAT I DIDN'T WANT ROBIN!

I love that all the spells are the ones from the game, and that the tomes have a set number of uses, just like in Fire Emblem.

Also, is Lucina a Marth costume, or a separate character?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#50053: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:03:36 AM

A character is a character is a character.

Not a good reason. What matters is how interesting they can be and pretty much nothing more. And Shy Guys have so many variants(with moveset potential), that they'd easily make a great rep with a beautiful moveset.

[up] It's impossible to tell what Lucina is. We know she's "new" but that's it. She's an official newcomer with a full size banner(but only on the mobile site, but that's due to how the size is made).

edited 14th Jul '14 11:04:47 AM by Irene

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nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#50054: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:04:24 AM

They could include Birdo and have her (him?) count as a Yoshi character, like Waluigi counts as a Wario Universe character.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#50055: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:04:48 AM

I don't care that I have literally no idea who either of them are.

They looked cool, and besides! CAPTAIN FALCON!

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#50056: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:05:16 AM

If you guys're starting to discuss generic characters, I'm gonna have to send all of you in the corner to think about what you've done. "Villager" as a stand-in for the Animal Crossing player character is not the same as "weird standard mook enemy that walks back and forth". Do not go there. Stop.

@Faw: I wouldn't even argue that she isn't a clone-ish character. But it seems that we agree that she's her own character, so I guess there's nothing to discuss there.
Eeeeeeeehm actually what I meant is that she's obviously a different character, like, as a person, but not necessarily in terms of moveset, but, anyway.

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#50057: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:05:58 AM

For Yoshi character you can have Baby Bowser, Baby Mario, Poochy, and Shy Guys. Shy Guys are mooks in it but you can't really have them but I can think of four different characters besides Yoshi not counting Shy Guy if you include Kamek.

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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#50058: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:06:27 AM

@Bad Wolf: I think she's a new character, because she's got her own animations and a page on the website. I doubt alternate costumes would get that kind of treatment.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#50059: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:09:58 AM

Shy Guys are pretty multifaceted though. There's dozens of kinds of them - they'd have a very confusion fu-esque style if they made it in, ala Game and Watch.

It won't happen, though.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#50060: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:10:17 AM

But she doesn't have new original art, and most/all of her moves seem to be Marth's (albeit, I'm bad at recognizing moves). Has there even been an alternate costume yet that's an entirely different character? Because if Lucina's the first, then there's no precedent to judge what she would or would not get.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#50061: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:11:41 AM

@Faw: I think we have some misunderstanding here. I am agreeing with what you're saying. She's a unique person, but she doesn't have a unique moveset.

I said that I won't argue that she ISN'T a clone. She pretty obviously is. But she's a clone who is also a separate character on the roster.

edited 14th Jul '14 11:14:36 AM by edvedd

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#50062: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:13:15 AM

I just skipped the last 7 pages, but...

SUCK IT, GEMATSU! I'm glad Robin's in. Also, I like Lucina as an alt skin.

I'm pretty sure Sakurai is the best troll in my recent memory. There's this, his obvious knowledge of the meme of this, and all the shit given to Chrom.

I think this is to maintain symmetry, and also that she's an alt.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#50063: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:13:54 AM

I compared Shy Guys to both Villager and Mii Fighters for a reason. Villager is actually generic too. So is Pokemon Trainer and pretty much every Pokemon overall. Mewtwo and Pikachu are arguable, though.

Generic guys aren't a big deal regardless. There's few Yoshi choices left, and Kamek(not the race) pretty much is just a Stage Hazard guy now. Birdo, Bowser Jr.(since Waluigi could be considered a Wario character, this could work too), and Shy Guys are the only viable ones. I wouldn't count on Birdo, though, but the other two have enough moveset potential to work.

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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#50064: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:15:50 AM

@Bad Wolf: I think she shares the newcomer art with Robin. After all, she is on it. And no, the only confirmed alternate costumes at this point are classic Wario, male WFT, and tracksuit Little Mac.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#50065: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:17:42 AM

Yeah, she's in the Robin art. It's more likely that since they were sharing the art anyway, it wouldn't make sense to put it in both profiles, so they gave her a box and specified newcomer only on her page.

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nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#50066: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:19:24 AM

[up][up] You forgot fem!Villager too.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#50067: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:19:59 AM

edvedd: Um, she almost definitely shares her slot with Marth, actually. Think Eddy/Christy in Tekken. They're different characters, but they have literally the exact same moves, and they usually share their slot (Christy is Eddy's alternate).

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#50068: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:23:18 AM

<_< She could be just clone ya know considering Toon Link is still a thing. Her page DOES have newcomer mark

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#50069: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:24:03 AM

Show me proof Marth and Lucina share a spot. 1 piece of evidence. She has the newcomer banner and her own page. That's my evidence she's not, now show me yours.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#50070: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:24:16 AM

Christie and Eddy don't share a character slot any more. They have different grabs and properties, too, so they are some minute differences, and all signs point to their diverging more in the future.

So bad example.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#50071: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:24:23 AM

At this point, she's a newcomer and completely her own character until proven otherwise. There is no reason to think an alt costume would be getting this treatment.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#50072: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:24:33 AM

@BW: You do know Sakurai isn't doing the shared slots thing anymore. That's why Sheik and ZSS are their own characters now.

edited 14th Jul '14 11:25:12 AM by Rinsankajugin

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#50073: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:24:39 AM

I'd say just wait to find out. There's no question she is considered her own full character regardless(why have a full newcomer banner and page otherwise?). Being a clone doesn't mean she can't have her own slot either. We know that is common.

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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#50074: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:29:02 AM

So Newcomer Lucina isn't a Newcomer?

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#50075: Jul 14th 2014 at 11:29:41 AM

[up][up]So just wait for Sakurai to confirm or deny stuff? What a concept. Glad we all thought of it.

I should just go to bed. This is all giving me a headache.

edited 14th Jul '14 11:29:51 AM by edvedd

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