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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#49951: Jul 14th 2014 at 8:57:51 AM

[up]I'm inferring clone, but then again the ambiguity of her tagline leans the other way.

Time shall tell.

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shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#49952: Jul 14th 2014 at 8:58:33 AM

I really don't care if shes an alt a clone or her own character. I am just happy shes in!

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#49953: Jul 14th 2014 at 8:59:17 AM

i havent seen marth's moveset since...brawl, which was a long time ago, so i wouldnt know.

but really, im not sure it matters that much if she's an alt or not? is there any functional difference from every other character aside from a lack of her own unique playstyle?

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#49954: Jul 14th 2014 at 8:59:17 AM

I'm beginning to think that Sakurai gets a kick out of seeing us bash each other's heads out over this stuff.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49955: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:00:03 AM

And only now you're realizing this?

edited 14th Jul '14 9:00:20 AM by Elbruno

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#49956: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:03:52 AM

Also, are people still thinking Lucina is Marth's alt costume? Really?
I like how you're saying that without pointing towards any indication in favor of the conclusion that she's her own character while simultaneously implying that it's painfully obvious.

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#49957: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:04:22 AM

A small detail people may have missed

Smash is now in FE canon.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#49959: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:06:22 AM

@Raven Cause she has a profile on the site that ISN'T Marth's? Like, if she's an alt, how come dude Trainer and fem Villager don't have their own profiles? And why does the Mii, who has 3 seperate variations, only have one?

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49960: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:07:14 AM

Look, she got her own title card and her own character box, so similar moves or not, she's a separate character as far as the game is concerned.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49961: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:07:59 AM

[up][up]Because their alts are both 1)The same character, but with a different gender, and 2)Introduced in the same game, unlike a potential Marth/Lucina alternate.

edited 14th Jul '14 9:08:17 AM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#49962: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:08:09 AM

but really, im not sure it matters that much if she's an alt or not? is there any functional difference from every other character aside from a lack of her own unique playstyle?

If she was an alt, she wouldn't have her own icon in the character select screen. You'd chose Marth, and then switch into his Lucina costume.

If she was a clone, she would have her own icon on the select screen, separate from any other fighter.

Either one of those options, she'd have the same moves.

But we don't actually know for certain whether she does share all the same moves. We haven't seen much yet.

I don't really care whether she has an identical moveset to Marth or not, I'd just prefer that you be able to select her with her own icon on the screen. It's more convenient. Also, since she is a separate character, it would be more respectful, clone or no.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#49963: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:08:13 AM

Fairly late, but regarding the Rayman stunt; I'm surprised nobody mentioned how this all but confirms the return of non-ported trophies, considering how Sakurai mentioned looking for "reference material" rather than the model itself.

Also piping in to say that the reveal today was easily the best possible resolution for this Awakening controversy, at least IMO. And I like to imagine Falcon just being anal over the Retired Nintendo Franchise Club losing out on another potential member.

edited 14th Jul '14 9:09:32 AM by Demonfly

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49964: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:12:13 AM

"Man. Robin really brought the thunder!"

No, Pit. Lightning.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#49965: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:12:24 AM

@Faw: She has her own character page. They wouldn't give an alt costume it's own page.

I don't wanna start an argument, I'm just confused why people try to see something in nothing.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49966: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:12:29 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Robin is now officially Smash's first traditional stance-esque character, right? Or is there a character I'm forgetting. The others required long transformations, and in any case said transformations are out.

edited 14th Jul '14 9:13:06 AM by KnownUnknown

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49967: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:12:43 AM

So, it was FE reps.

Not Ridley as I had hoped, but dammit until the we have the code and hackers literally rip it open to go through the characters or we have confirmation he's a boss, he won't be deconfirmed.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49968: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:13:39 AM

So apparently on the mobile sight Lucina has a larger newcomer box just like Robin. Yet she has a veteran sized box on the main site. Strange.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49969: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:15:50 AM

[up]It's also the same on the desktop version.

@Rinsa-what's-their-name: Again, it'd make sense in case Lucina really is an alt because she's both 1)Her own character instead of just "Female Marth" and 2)Introduced much later down the line, unlike Villager and Trainer.

edited 14th Jul '14 9:16:23 AM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#49970: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:18:04 AM

Smashboards are speculating that Robin will draw the Levin Sword when he exhausts his tome and that the Bronze Sword is drawn out when he has a tome. If correct, this means Robin is probably the closest we're getting to a stance-type character in this Smash since Zelda and ZSS are their own separate characters now.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#49971: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:20:39 AM

[up][up] Wait, the first point seems like something against your reason, and I have no idea what the second point has to do with anything.

I'm not sure if I understand your reasoning.

edited 14th Jul '14 9:21:21 AM by Rinsankajugin

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#49972: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:20:52 AM

So... Thread Hop. Has anything official happened with this character reveal?

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#49973: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:21:15 AM

Looks like Sakurai does care a lot about Fire Emblem after all, putting four characters in the roster. Just sayin'.

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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#49974: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:22:03 AM

I think the fact that Lucina has her own space on the website is just glorification. If indeed she is an alt, this is definitely a first for them - having a different model and voice. So it's like her actual character is there, and they're advertising it on the website as such to appeal to fans who wanted her, but she's still an exact Moveset Clone of Marth.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49975: Jul 14th 2014 at 9:22:53 AM

[up][up][up]Yeah, kinda. I mean, Robin and Lucina from Fire Emblem and Captain Falcon returning are official right?

edited 14th Jul '14 9:23:10 AM by edvedd

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