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MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
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#49651: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:34:49 PM

Midna, Rayman isnt a playable character (yet?).

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#49652: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:35:02 PM

This might actually have been done back when Legends was an exclusive.

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49653: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:35:12 PM

Midna: Because I'm willing to bet most people know who Rayman is but haven't the faintest clue who Lip is. I'm not even trying to be funny. Who is that?

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#49654: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:35:17 PM

That was with Square Enix, a completely different company. Also, Geno was a character they had joint ownership with SE on. Rayman is a pure Ubisoft creation.
Legally, this is the exact same situation.

edited 13th Jul '14 11:36:05 PM by Pulse

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#49655: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:36:04 PM

I have to wonder what was going through Ubisoft's head here.

"Oh, you wanna use our mascot in SMASH BROS.!? Aweso-... A trophy? ...EVEN BETTER!!"

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#49656: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:36:07 PM

what game are you playing Sakurai

what is your terrible secret

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Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#49657: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:36:13 PM

@49653 The main character of Panel de Pon, a first-party video game I feel I literally cannot stop obsessing over because Nintendo keeps trying to bury it and I really want to keep it alive however I can.

Why do you think I'm advertising Operation Save Lip in my sig? It's an adorable game and I don't want Nintendo to keep trying to kill it. They have to listen!

edited 13th Jul '14 11:37:23 PM by Midna

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49658: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:36:32 PM

Ubisoft and Nintendo are weird. They're basically the only AAA western developer to actually try and develop for the Wii U, but they still pull shenanigans like delaying Rayman for 6 months so it can be ported to the PS 360. I think they're trying to be close at least.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#49659: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:37:01 PM

I'm guessing it's more like

"Holy wow, Mr. Sakurai thinks Rayman is deserving of a mention in Smash! That's WAAAAYY more than we ever expected!"

I sure said that!
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Court Dragon
#49660: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:37:23 PM

Yo, Midna. He's not shown to be playable. Hell, the wording seems to discourage his chances, as apparently they needed to ask Ubisoft for stuff for the trophy's model. If Rayman was playable, they would already have a model in the game to turn into a trophy.

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#49661: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:37:26 PM

[up] x15 For starters, Rayman is a character that people actually know about.

Anyway, this definitely surprised me (as if anybody wasn't surprised). I'm not expecting him as a character because the description makes it pretty clear that he's a mere trophy, but to go out of your way to have a trophy of a character whose party is otherwise unrepresented... to say that this is strange is an understatement.

edited 13th Jul '14 11:38:41 PM by RavenKingSage

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Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#49662: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:38:03 PM

@49660 "(even if not playable)"

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#49663: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:38:48 PM

@Pulse: I guess, it's just you think they'd want to go whole hog. Negotiating rights for a character makes sense. Negotiating rights for a minor but relevant cameo makes a little less sense but is a nice touch. Negotiating rights for a random cameo from an unrelated third party just seems utterly bizarre to me.

I just think there's gotta be more to this. Otherwise it's a bit outlandish even for Sakurai.

edited 13th Jul '14 11:39:15 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#49664: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:38:52 PM

Nintendo has zero ownership rights over Geno. Square-Enix is the owners. They created him, after all. He may be a Mario character, but he's not a Nintendo one.

And yes, Sakurai would need to get the rights to use a Trophy alone from a third party company. Mentioning he had to ask them isn't illogical due to that. I doubt he's playable due to that wording, though. As for why, he's a notable character who's had Nintendo appearances multiple times before. It's just regular Nintendo history. And I do agree with more Panel de Pon representation in general. An item is a little too little.

Shadow?
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49665: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:38:59 PM

I mean, this may have absolutely nothing to do with the character reveal.

But way to make us guess.

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#49666: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:39:11 PM

All I know about Lip is a woman with a flower Stick. And her theme was what made Pictochat stage fun for me. If you mind filling in some gaps on why you want Lip representation so badly...

Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#49667: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:40:34 PM

Not a woman, but yes.

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The Fool
#49668: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:40:52 PM

There's a pretty fascinating element to Panel de Pon, being that the Match-Three Game gameplay is shown as a metaphor for magical combat etc.

A puzzle genre rep would be kinda nifty, too.

edited 13th Jul '14 11:41:03 PM by Pulse

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#49669: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:41:16 PM

Omg guys, the forums is exploding :O

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#49670: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:41:33 PM

Dude, some franchises thrive, and other don't. You shouldn't act all pissed off because an IP that's not been used for a while doesn't have representation in a recent game. If anything, you should accept it, and be pleasantly surprised in the off-chance that they are resurrected, like it happened to Kid Icarus in Brawl.

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#49671: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:42:56 PM

Can i just say I love Rayman's expression?

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#49672: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:43:13 PM

dude looks high as a kite

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#49674: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:43:48 PM

[up][up][up]Maybe if Nintendo hadn't kept turning it into a "boy's game" from day one. Lip still hasn't made her Western debut, and may never.

edited 13th Jul '14 11:44:29 PM by Midna

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#49675: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:45:15 PM

[up][up] Perhaps both.

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