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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#49576: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:08:42 PM

When your list of "obvious choices" manages to get right so many characters, it becomes harder and harder to believe it's just dumb luck. Mind you, it still could be luck, but the possibilities of that being true are becoming thinner by the minute.

edited 13th Jul '14 10:09:11 PM by Elbruno

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#49577: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:10:23 PM

edited 13th Jul '14 10:10:51 PM by TPPR10

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49578: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:11:46 PM

7 (8 with Pokemon from XY) correct picks and the remaining 3 looking likely at this point is a bit beyond guessing. It all adds up, especially when there are plenty of other obvious choices such as Dixie, Bowser Jr., and Issac. Pac-Man, Mii, and Little Mac may be brain dead choices, but not all of them are. Villager isn't a longshot, but he's not that obvious. Same with Shulk. Palutena should be in that boat as well, but she was pretty obvious by the time she was leaked.

The leaker definitely knows something. The question is whether the info was really outdated, and whether that was everything. We won't know that until release.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49579: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:16:20 PM

I still think none of their choices were terribly shocking. Two of the characters he didn't predict are Greninja and Rosalina. Coincidentally those are also two of the characters that weren't the most obvious of choices for newcomers.

All the others are just so obvious and were suggested by multiple people. Pac-Man? Namco owns him and is the developer. While I had doubts at first he's not really that surprising. Mii? Makes sense given Nintendo's focus on them. Little Mac? He's been requested since Brawl. Palutena? Uprising is the game Sakurai worked on directly before this and it sold pretty well. It seemed pretty likely that either Palutena or Medusa would get in. Mega Man? That's every fanboy's dream.

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#49580: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:21:18 PM

I really wish Gematsu would stop trying to go out of its way to kill surprises. It's really annoying.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49581: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:21:30 PM

I would implore Sakurai to just reveal all the characters so we can just not talk about this any more.

Because damn, this topic just sucks a lot of air out of the room, let me tell you.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49583: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:25:06 PM

Again, there are several obvious choices he didn't pick. Like Dixie. The obvious picks retort fails when those obvious picks are chosen and other obvious picks aren't. Plus Wii Fit Trainer and any sort of Rhythm Heaven character are not obvious picks. They may be obvious in hindsight, but that's it, hindsight.

Leaks exist. They happen all the time. Brawl had legit leaks. Pokemon XY had legit leaks. I'm not a fan of them, but they do happen. And while Sal isn't the actual leaker, he has leaked legit stuff before.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49584: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:26:35 PM

[up][up]Yes, let's all beg Sakurai on Miiverse because that always works oh god just put me out of my misery this is SO FUCKING EXHAUSTING

edited 13th Jul '14 10:27:10 PM by edvedd

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49585: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:28:42 PM

Then let's hope for a big surprise for Monado Monday. I agree the speculation scene has grown really stale, so something to fire us back up would be great.

So enjoy this image.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49586: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:28:46 PM

Maybe the best course of action is to not bring up more forum posts regarding the leak. I don't mind it that much, but it's obviously a headache for a lot of others.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49587: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:29:54 PM

It's all just the same thing, you know? Let's just let Sakurai reveal the characters. If the leak is true, whatever, if it's not, whatever.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#49588: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:31:27 PM

The only thing that even makes Wii Fit Trainer guessable is the fact somebody called it in a joke topic a long time back on Game FA Qs. And even then, it's really not easy to guess. Villager is only if you did the research, where Sakurai's exact reason was given(as translated later on by a member of Smashboards named Starphoenix) as "Villager was not made playable because other characters came first in Brawl.", so it wasn't a moveset issue, or anything easily tellable at first glance. He was just lower priority, nothing more. If and only if you knew that, would you know he's likely to be in the next game. That's kind of it.

Chorus Kids/Chorus Men/Marshall are not easy guesses at all. That's silly. They're really out there. Now, if they(or he) doesn't get in, then yeah, he clearly made some stuff up. But only if that's the case. And yeah, it is weird that he keeps giving us outdated stuff, and yet updated stuff too. According to Sakurai in an interview during the e3 stuff(well, somewhat after), he didn't write Greninja's name down and said "Pokemon from X/Y". Even if Sal's leaker knew, it would make sense to list it as that during his leak since that's the exact name he saw on the leak sheet.

I will note that if he gets Shulk wrong, then it's far more clear he had outdated information and just made guesses later. Some might wonder about Mii Fighter, but there's rumors that you could hack into the SSB website the night before and find out the name, so it was simply from that. I call it a rumor since nobody could prove it, but hacking is believable enough, and it does make his "outdated information" theory plausible. But only if Shulk is the wrong character revealed today(it's past Midnight for me, to clarify, hence my wording).

And I'm fine with dropping the leak talk, I had wrote this before somebody suggested that. I would definitely rather have only Sakurai talk about it and Sal stop giving us information to let the hype build up without ruining the surprise.

edited 13th Jul '14 10:32:34 PM by Irene

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49589: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:32:06 PM

I'm of the opinion that if the Gematsu leak is false he really needs to stop spreading around misinformation. And if it's true, he really needs to stop spoiling the surprise.

Either way he needs to shut up instead of ruining things.

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#49590: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:32:38 PM

[up]x5 So does this mean that Samus is the Bionis stand-in? tongue

edited 13th Jul '14 10:48:30 PM by rmctagg09

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49591: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:33:35 PM

[up][up]He's made Smash discussions really annoying, at the least. I have no ill will for him otherwise.

edited 13th Jul '14 10:34:13 PM by edvedd

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#49592: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:37:27 PM

He's that annoying kid who constantly reminds you that he has "connections" to things, so he can, say, get DV Ds weeks ahead of release. I'm like, dude, shut up.

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Court Dragon
#49593: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:44:03 PM

hahah. Well of course he says it's going to be Shulk. Everyone and their grandma thinks it's gonna be Shulk because of the Xenoblade writer retweeting Sakurai's announcement.

It's just kind of funny that said prediction is obviously going to happen, and yet prove nothing at all.

Now, if he'd said it a few days ago, before the retweet...

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#49594: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:46:23 PM

[up] Actually, this is notable to say. The leaker knew nothing and is just repeating a simple tweet, so he easily could still have outdated information, and wasn't working there for a very long time.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#49595: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:49:29 PM

Honestly Shulk wasn't THAT obvious choice. Besides the fact I still think that is lame choice, the fact is that if nobody had leaked him before hand even I would be positively surprised due to that its nice to get surprised tongue

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#49596: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:51:13 PM

Well, Xenoblade was a pretty big deal, what with Project Rainfall and now getting a successor on the Wii U.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#49597: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:51:21 PM

If I remember right this Gematsu leaker is supposed be the same guy who spilled the beans on Marvel Vs Capcom 3's roster, right? If it's Lupinko, then as much as I wanna smack the guy there's like a 99% chance he's right. Bastard's got legit connections.

Also, if it is Lupinko, then be prepared to be spoiled more often. He's a hardcore FG type; you're supposed to be hyped by knowing exactly who's coming.

edited 13th Jul '14 10:53:32 PM by Watchtower

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#49598: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:51:55 PM

Y'know what? Fuck it, it's gonna be King K. Rool. There, that's my prediction.

I'm out of here until later.

edited 13th Jul '14 10:52:32 PM by edvedd

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#49599: Jul 13th 2014 at 10:54:08 PM

I'll say my position once more: when Chorus Bros is announced (not Marshal, not any other Rhythm Heaven character; Chorus Posse.), then I will full endorse the list. They are the one remaining not-really-obvious character on the list.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#49600: Jul 13th 2014 at 11:00:49 PM

Someone should really slap the leaker guy though since avoiding the Internet until release is just boring tongue


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