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GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Wants Captain N for SSBU
#49526: Jul 13th 2014 at 3:35:15 PM

Apparently Reggie said, "No Johns"?

Signatures are for lamers.
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#49529: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:18:50 PM

Grand Finals are Mango (Fox, Winners) v Hungrybox (Jiggs, Losers)

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#49530: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:21:56 PM

I've always imagined a possible fighter Ridley to be perpetually half a foot off the ground, endlessly flapping his wings.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#49531: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:24:54 PM

Ridley would almost certainly be a master of air fighting.

Heck, most of his moves would probably get him in the air, but not in free fall.

His final smash, of course, would be floating above the arena spitting fireballs and stabbing with his tail like in Super Metroid.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#49532: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:27:52 PM

I can imagine the Little Mac vs. Ridley fights now! Partly because he punched Samus into another country when she made a short joke, so someone has to do it.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49533: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:31:02 PM

[up]Ground vs Air. Tiny vs Gigantic. It's perfect!

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#49534: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:33:48 PM

These should be alternate costumes for Pikachu.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#49535: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:35:57 PM

And Mango remains the EVO champion for Melee.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#49536: Jul 13th 2014 at 4:37:59 PM

New idea for Pikachu customization! All of his electric Specials have a variant that deals much more damage, but also deals 1-5 damage to Pikachu.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Let's dance, boys!
#49537: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:21:40 PM

So the variant attacks can turn Pikachu to Melee Pichu? No thank you. The recoil damage was the thing that I HATED about Pichu in Melee. Charizard apparently got some recoil on its moves as well, hopefully it isn't as egregious as it was in Melee.

Poll results:

1.) Shulk (by a landslide too, like 42% of the vote)

2.) Veteran/Newcomer combo

3.) Tie (Awakening rep/new 3rd party)

4.) Ridley

5.) Other

6.) Three-way tie (A Veteran reveal, Chorus Men, Issac)

Dead Last: New DK rep (with no votes whatsoever)

Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 Smash
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49538: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:23:58 PM

I'd guess Flare Blitz has some recoil.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#49539: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:29:50 PM

We've already been told that it does.

I'm guessing a weaker, no-recoil version will be a customization option- Flame Charge, maybe?

I sure said that!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49540: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:53:10 PM

I'm just wondering what Mega Man's variants will be. It'd be awesome if he got different weapons which use the same animations to fire. Like repacing Metal Blade with either Shadow Blade or Ring Boomerng, or swapping out Leaf Shield for Junk Barrier or Jewel Satellite or something.

I have a message from another time...
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49541: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:54:31 PM

That's probably what they'll wind up doing. Mega Man has had a lot of different attacks that have similar properties to other ones. I'm wondering if they'd give him any of X's or Zero's powers. The Flame Sword could be replaced by the Z Saber and I could see him getting the Hadoken and Shoryuken as replacements for his B and Up B.

edited 13th Jul '14 6:54:55 PM by Kostya

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49542: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:57:42 PM

Flame Sword is not one of his specials, though. His specials are Metal Blade, Crash Bomber, Rush Coil, and Leaf Shield.

Perhaps Napalm Bomb and Danger Wrap could go in Crash Bomber's slot?

I have a message from another time...
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49543: Jul 13th 2014 at 6:59:30 PM

Yeah, I forgot for a second that the custom movesets only applied to specials. The Z Saber could still get in as his Neutral or Side B though.

MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#49544: Jul 13th 2014 at 7:02:01 PM

I hope the Pokémon characters get a variety of unique special moves like Palutena. It would be just like choosing your Pokémon's moves in the Pokémon games.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#49545: Jul 13th 2014 at 7:02:02 PM

[up][up][up]Side B variants:

  • Crash Bomber: Sticks to opponent, can be detonated at will to inflict moderate, concentrated damage.
  • Remote Mine: Can be steered, and sticks to opponents. Explosion remains in place for around two seconds and does multiple hits, like a mini Smart Bomb.
  • Drill Bomb: Pierces enemies and doesn't stick to them, and automatically detonates after either going a certain distance or when you want to detonate it early. More powerful than the Crash Bomber, but also slower.

How do these sound?

edited 13th Jul '14 7:02:44 PM by NesClassic

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#49546: Jul 13th 2014 at 7:16:54 PM

Less than 12 hours until the reveal, woooo

@the poll: Guess I was the only one who voted for Isaac. =(

...Although I don't really expect him to be the reveal, I'm just hoping for him. In general, I'm expecting it to be one of the characters from the leak, but hoping it isn't.

edited 13th Jul '14 7:18:11 PM by beorc

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MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#49547: Jul 13th 2014 at 8:10:07 PM

I can think of some alternate special moves for Lucario:

  • Neutral B:
    • Focus Blast: Lucario throws a ball of energy that's much more powerful than Aura Sphere, but it also moves more slowly. Lucario cannot save the charge if he cancels it.
    • Vacuum Wave: Lucario launches a shock wave that moves faster than Aura Sphere, but is also weaker. Cannot be charged.
  • Side B:
    • Bullet Punch: Lucario suddenly lunges forward, gaining more power and distance the higher his damage is. At low damage, it looks like a jab. Can be used for recovery.
    • Close Combat: A grabbing move that deals a long, powerful combo. If Lucario misses, he'll perform the combo anyway, making him an easy target.
  • Up B:
    • Sky Uppercut: Lucario performs an uppercut that hits once, dealing moderate knockback. If he hits someone at the peak of his jump, the attack deals more damage and knockback.
    • High Jump Kick: Lucario performs a powerful knee kicknote  that hits once. If he doesn't hit anyone, he loses all momentum and lands knee first, taking damage and having long landing lag. He can grab the ledge with no harm in this state.
  • Down B:
    • Counter: Lucario takes a defensive stance. If he gets hit, he receives damage, but is immune to knockback and immediately counter attacks, dealing twice the damage he took and twice the knockback he would have taken. Has a shorter window than Double Team to discourage spamming.
    • Reversal: Lucario releases a blast of energy around him that gains more range and power the higher his damage is.

edited 13th Jul '14 8:21:01 PM by MJTrooper

Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#49548: Jul 13th 2014 at 8:16:44 PM

...For some reason, that reminds me of how very sad it is that nobody's made a hack that uses Ganondorf's model over Lucario.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49549: Jul 13th 2014 at 8:28:28 PM

I should note that most characters appear to use the same animations, if not the same particles, for their moves, so I can't imagine Lucario's Up B will change to an uppercut pose for his variants.

I have a message from another time...
MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#49550: Jul 13th 2014 at 8:39:20 PM

That doesn't seem to stop Palutena or the Mii Fighters from having completely different animations for each variation.


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