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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49476: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:42:35 PM

Which Art is that? Monado Buster? Backslash?

I always thought Sword Drones X or maybe Final Cross was the best.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49477: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:45:30 PM

I think I heard that Monado Buster is the most powerful art in the game although I forget if that was with or without the boost from attacking Mechon.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49478: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:52:50 PM

I suspect Sakurai wants to reveal all newcomers before release, which is why we're getting this now. Or he's just in the mood to reveal someone. I don't think it's anything more than that. It won't be a new third party. E3 is the place to reveal those.

Even ignoring the Xenoblade director's tweet, I would still think it's Shulk. Chrom would get a resounding meh. He's better suited for a general Direct. Chorus Men would get a "what" reaction. Shulk is the only one who of the three who can try to carry the hype on his own. So I'm guessing Shulk here, Chrom in the August Direct, and Chorus Men in a last minute Smash Direct.

Now watch me be completely wrong as usual, and we get Takamaru instead. I think the only character I've gotten the time right was Pac-Man.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49479: Jul 12th 2014 at 9:56:20 PM

Assuming Ridley is in it could be him but I think Shulk is more likely.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#49480: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:13:20 PM

Every time I see Shulk I think Edge Maverick and Emil Castagnier.

Blond guys with one-handed swords, you see.

edited 12th Jul '14 10:13:31 PM by Keybreak

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Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#49481: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:25:06 PM

I guess it's only fitting. Is there anything about Shulk that could be described as original or unique?

...or even just 'interesting'?

edited 12th Jul '14 10:25:34 PM by Null

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49482: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:29:46 PM

size-changing, wave-slinging, cyclone-making, buff-producing laser blade, visions of the future, occasionally referenced passion as an engineer.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#49483: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:31:35 PM

He also has a British accent. Like every one else in Xenoblade, but yeah.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#49484: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:32:08 PM

Emil can change his elemental attribute, form pacts with monsters so they fight beside him, and turn on a Superpowered Evil Side involuntarily!

And Edge can use a sword to fight monsters that are inexplicably immune to bullets.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49485: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:37:35 PM

I would add further, but then we'd be threading into serious spoiler territory.

[down]Yay!

edited 12th Jul '14 10:39:57 PM by Elbruno

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Court Dragon
#49486: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:39:17 PM

[up][up] So they're all interesting!

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#49487: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:40:20 PM

I haven't finished Star Ocean The Last Hope yet. It felt too similar to Tales of Symphonia and I was a little tired of circular battlefields.

But Tales of Symphonia could be some good representation if we didn't have enough fantasy RPG swordsmen.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49488: Jul 12th 2014 at 10:49:02 PM

Shulk seems to get pegged as a generic hero a lot. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he wasn't that generic from what I've seen of him so far.

If Ridley is in, I'd expect him in August. It'd be the one year anniversary of the Pyroshpere reveal, and he'd probably be the second to last newcomer revealed, like how he's usually the second to last boss fought.

kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49489: Jul 12th 2014 at 11:24:19 PM

Shulk is a swordsman but his sword is also magitech that was formerly wielded by a god. He can easily be differentiated from the others.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49490: Jul 13th 2014 at 12:39:02 AM

There's a few routes it can take. We can have his specials revolve around the damaging Monado Arts (Buster, Purge, Eater, and Cyclone), or perhaps the beneficial ones (Shield, Enchant, Speed, and Armour)

Or perhaps a combination of both styles.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#49491: Jul 13th 2014 at 12:52:08 AM

Well, that's what custom movesets are for. Problem is, predicting the enemy's big attacks was such a major part of boss battles, but I can't see how they could implement it. Unless it's a purely cinematic FS, that is.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49492: Jul 13th 2014 at 12:54:58 AM

Not sure how likely it'd be, but I could see Shulk having at least one attack or ability that's tied to either a cooldown timer (like Xenoblade's regular arts) or to successful strikes (like talent arts).

I have no idea how his Combat Clairvoyance could come into play in a reasonable manner, other than as a counter that acts before the opponent actually strikes (such as the very moment they press the attack button) instead of the usual parry/dodge and then counter.

edited 13th Jul '14 12:55:43 AM by Elbruno

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49493: Jul 13th 2014 at 12:56:43 AM

Maybe an ability that let's him counter Final Smashes and is built up by successfully landing attacks?

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49494: Jul 13th 2014 at 1:02:15 AM

Problem is that would make it both frustrating to the one that catches the Smash Ball, and dependant on whatever or not Smash Balls are active in the first place.

It would be kind of cool to have visions show up in single-player boss fights (which for all we know won't be nearly as present as they were in Brawl); but again, very situational.

edited 13th Jul '14 1:02:52 AM by Elbruno

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#49495: Jul 13th 2014 at 1:06:00 AM

You know how Giga Bowser was a boss that had no health bar, only damage percentages? They should have more of those.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#49496: Jul 13th 2014 at 1:11:22 AM

I had an idea where Shulk would use the visions to know when some stage hazards would activate.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#49497: Jul 13th 2014 at 1:12:09 AM

I could see it as an element to a cinematic Final Smash, too.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49498: Jul 13th 2014 at 1:12:49 AM

That would only work for the 3DS version since every other player in a local match would be able to see these visions on the Wii U version.

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Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#49499: Jul 13th 2014 at 5:09:56 AM

I think it's Chorus Men. Sakurai probably understandably assumes that they will be a Base Breaker, so he will be giving them an awesome three minute trailer in the hope that it will make the community like them much more.


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