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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49201: Jul 8th 2014 at 12:24:18 PM

It was spoiled in her introduction so I think we're cool here.

It's possible that the Chaos Kin was weakening her but I sorta doubt it. After all, Pit's defeated several other gods and god-like beings on his own.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#49202: Jul 8th 2014 at 12:25:39 PM

Mind you, Palutena tends to stagger during the fight, suggesting that the Chaos Kin doesn't have FULL control over her and thus can't use all of her power.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49203: Jul 8th 2014 at 12:34:51 PM

Alright, but what about Pseudo-Palutena? She should be just as powerful but without the limitations.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#49204: Jul 8th 2014 at 12:38:12 PM

She was only made as a trial, as well as specialized solely for screwing around with Pit. I doubt Dyntos had any intention of making her as strong as the real thing.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49205: Jul 8th 2014 at 12:51:53 PM

All the same, I have no doubts that making one just as powerful is within Dyntos's power.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49206: Jul 8th 2014 at 12:59:44 PM

Of course, this is assuming that Pseudo-Palutena WASN'T the real thing. While I do believe that it's doubtful that it was, there's still ambiguity regarding it in the game, I do believe. Or did the Pseudo-Palutena trophy clear that up? I can't remember.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#49207: Jul 8th 2014 at 1:44:35 PM

Super Smash Bros spoils everything. That Palutena was possessed, that Sheik is actually Zelda, that Samus is a girl...

But really, You Should Know This Already!

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#49208: Jul 8th 2014 at 1:46:22 PM

Yep. Here's the description.

"A twisted version of Palutena created by Dyntos as a joke. During the appearance of Pseudo-Palutena, Dyntos put the real goddess to sleep miles away. This amazing feat is evidence that Dyntos's power exceeds even that of Hades."

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49209: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:06:12 PM

[up][up]I still have the feeling that whenif Shulk shows up, he'll be accompained in some form by one of Xenoblade's Walking Spoilers. Seven in particular would spoil a helluva lot of stuff just by showing up.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49210: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:08:35 PM

Seven needs to be an assist trophy in Shulk's video. That's the only spoiler I can really think of that they could show. Unless Shulk is having a conversation with someone and(ending spoilers) casually mentions that time he remade the universe.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49211: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:09:29 PM

I don't know who this Seven is but I'm curious how them simply appearing would somehow spoil the game.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49212: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:14:52 PM

Seven is the final party member of Xenoblade. You only find out about their existence halfway through the game and you don't get them in your party until about 70% of the way through. It's not the biggest spoiler in the game but it is significant.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49213: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:23:25 PM

Also, their mere presence would spoil one of the game's biggest plot points before the final ones.

edited 8th Jul '14 2:41:58 PM by Elbruno

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#49214: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:42:23 PM

[up]Wait, so merely mentioning Seven's name (much less he's eventually a party member) is a huge spoiler?sad

We've only just finished Satorl Marsh in Chuggaa's LP.

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#49215: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:42:27 PM

If it's who I'm thinking of, I really wanted that person as the representative, even though I knew it wasn't likely.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#49216: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:51:04 PM

Seven's not their name by the way, it's just the nickname. That big of a spoiler they are.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#49217: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:52:04 PM

Ah, so they're like Hades from KIU then.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#49218: Jul 8th 2014 at 2:58:45 PM

So the fandom calls them Seven? Might be an in-universe nickname but still.

Wow... I don't think there's ever been a spoiler that big. Even Hades from Kid Icarus: Uprising just has his name spoiler-tagged every time it appears. Just like Ridley, except he isn't a spoiler.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#49219: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:02:53 PM

I don't get it. I'd like to play the game at some point, but on this side of it te seven thing comes off as really obnoxious. The name has no meaning to non-fans, so adding a cypher is pointless.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#49220: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:08:36 PM

[up]But if people playing through the game or watching a playthrough, or those who want to get the game see the real name (which I still don't know), I imagine it'd cause a huge spoiler to occur once the character itself is met.

Of course, Xenoblade fans themselves know who it refers to. I think the cypher is a-ok.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#49221: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:13:25 PM

It was invented so people playing through the game could talk about them and their role in the party after they joined without resorting to spoiler text every other line. You have to understand that Xenoblade can easily take over 100 hours to beat on your first playthrough. You can play the game for a while a long time before running into them so spoiling their existence that early tends to annoy people that aren't as far along.

edit: Seven isn't in-universe by the way. They have another name but the fandom calls them that because they're the seventh permanent party member.

edited 8th Jul '14 3:14:46 PM by Kostya

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49222: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:26:39 PM

How to explain why Seven is a spoiler without spoiling it?

Seven's identity significantly changes the meaning of several scenes earlier in the game. I suppose Seven could be considered a Wham Character, as the effect is similar to that of a Wham Line.

"Seven" is simply a convnient name that can be used to discuss the character. The cipher means nothing to people who have not played the game, but it still sounds enough like a name, and is a welcome courtesy to those currnently playing the game, or who may want to try it some time.

edited 8th Jul '14 3:26:55 PM by Enlong

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#49223: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:35:47 PM

... So, guys, how about we go back to the one topic that never results in arguements!

Music!

I'm hoping to hear some more of the combat themes from the FE series in Smash for. I'm hoping for some stuff like Beauty is a Mad Mistress or an arrangement of Sacred Strength, like this linked fan arrangement.

edited 8th Jul '14 3:36:11 PM by Pulse

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Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#49224: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:40:47 PM

I'm interested to just hear some more FE arrangements - aside from the operatic main theme and With Mila's Divine Protection, I can't remember any themes that were actually rearranged in Brawl. From what we've seen of it in SSB 4, the version of Id ~ Purpose being used is the original truncated a little. It's okay in that instance, but hopefully there'll be a higher ratio of new arrangements this time around.

edited 8th Jul '14 3:41:32 PM by Null

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EviiPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
Some Guy Or Something
#49225: Jul 8th 2014 at 3:40:54 PM

To prove you wrong, I preferred Melee's music to Brawl's clearly inferior selection. So if it isn't like Melee, no buy.

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edited 8th Jul '14 3:45:35 PM by EviiPaladin

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