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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#49026: Jul 4th 2014 at 8:56:45 AM

If that meant Robin and Tiki would appear, I suppose I wouldn't mind.

Final Smash is the Awakening, followed by some huge version of Aether.

That, or enormous attacks from everyone. Two Aethers, dragon fire, Ignis, etc.

Or maybe Robin uses Rally Spectrum on everyone, and they go to town, alongside Chrom?

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#49028: Jul 4th 2014 at 10:54:21 AM

So like pulling his allies out of hammerspace and swinging them around like weapons?

Would that make him a swordsmanman?

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#49029: Jul 4th 2014 at 10:57:12 AM

I don't think it'll apply to the playable Pokémon again (for obvious reasons) but what if type advantages apply to the Pokémon that are enemies in Smash Run?

From SmashWiki it appears Chandelure can absorb any fire-based attacks via Flash Fire, which is what prompted me to ponder this. Also, uh... I'm sorry for anyone out there who's going to main Charizard, because of Chandelure in Smash Run.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#49030: Jul 4th 2014 at 11:52:43 AM

'Zard's still got Rock Smash, at least, and despite the animation, Fly doesn't deal fire damage, at least not in Brawl.

Also: That is a really nifty little touch. I hope it can bypass shields via Infiltrator, too.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#49031: Jul 4th 2014 at 12:02:32 PM

And keep you from running with Shadow Tag!

Ha! Just kidding.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#49032: Jul 4th 2014 at 1:10:55 PM

Why can't Chrom just be a swordsman?

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birdie fairy
#49033: Jul 4th 2014 at 1:12:01 PM

He is a swordsman.

Thing is, that kind of contributes to the problem with him.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#49034: Jul 4th 2014 at 1:22:35 PM

I'd rather him spearman, really. Spear lords are cool.

SaturnianUmbrella Since: Jan, 2013
#49035: Jul 4th 2014 at 1:28:39 PM

If we had a Fire Emblem spearman I think it would probably be one who has lances as his main weapon, like Ephraim. Plus spearman Chrom would mean he would get a generic weapon rather than Falchion.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#49036: Jul 4th 2014 at 1:45:57 PM

And thus, the Falchion was reforged into a spear. Marth looks on and shakes his head in shame, wandering what the world is coming to.

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#49038: Jul 4th 2014 at 2:30:42 PM

The naginata is pretty ballin'.

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#49039: Jul 4th 2014 at 2:34:05 PM

Chrom's fine as a swordsman, but the issue is that, although their fighting styles are different, Smash has a lot of swordsmen. Holy swords, barbed swords, flaming swords, legendary swords, swords that are huge, swords that turn into bows, swords that only appear in taunts... our cup runneth over with swordsmen.

And Fire Emblem is not only about swordsmen. Swords are only one third of one third of the weapon types in that series, depending on the title.

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KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#49040: Jul 4th 2014 at 2:44:47 PM

And Fire Emblem is not only about swordsmen. Swords are only one third of one third of the weapon types in that series, depending on the title.

Indeed.

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The Fool
#49041: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:06:37 PM

However, the Lords, the main characters of the games, almost invariably use swords. Even the handful that don't, like Ephraim and Micaiah, are inevitably accompanied by one that does.

I honestly don't have that much of a problem with sword fighters in Smash- It's a celebration of video gaming in general and Nintendo in particular, and swords are easily the most common weapon type in video games.

I say we throw in a bunch of generic red-uniformed classes in Smash Run to get our weapon triangles in, with Chrom using the Falchion primarily but switching to a Silver Lance or something for his Up Smash and have him lob a Javelin or a Spear for a special.

edited 4th Jul '14 4:08:15 PM by Pulse

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#49042: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:08:30 PM

It is very possible for there to be many different ways to fight using one weapon. Especially the sword.

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Court Dragon
#49043: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:28:19 PM

But there are some main character types who use other weapons. Chrom's importance in Awakening is just about equalled, or perhaps surpassed, by a magic user, for example.

Failing that, Chrom using the Shepherds for his various attacks would resolve the issue.

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KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#49044: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:35:07 PM

Would him using lances and swords heavily also help resolve the issue?

edited 4th Jul '14 4:35:21 PM by KSonik

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#49045: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:36:10 PM

Although I'd like Robin as much as the next guy, Chrom makes the most sense for both an Awakening rep and a Fire Emblem newcomer.

Ignoring the importance of Awakening in Fire Emblem history, Chrom is probably the most recognizable Lord after anyone who's appeared in Super Smash Bros.. Likely the first one where people in general wouldn't have to look up what game he was from, too.tongue

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KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#49046: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:37:58 PM

Chrom was featured in Monster Hunter.

Also, this.

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#49047: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:55:15 PM

It's a celebration of video gaming in general and Nintendo in particular, and swords are easily the most common weapon type in video games.
It is very possible for there to be many different ways to fight using one weapon. Especially the sword.
Both of these are very good points. It's not like Marth/Roy, Ike, Meta Knight, and the Links, who all use swords, are the same as each other because of that fact. And the Mii Sword User is another addition that has its own style. So even if Chrom uses a sword, nothing says that he won't have his own style (regardless of whether or not he did in his own game).

The problem is... some of the people complaining, for the most part, don't care (and some hate how prolific swords are in gaming, making them hate the glut of sword users that Smash has in general). If Chrom shows up wielding a sword, all they'll see is "Fire Emblem Character + Sword = Another swordsman from a series where everyone is a swordsman,even the Assist Trophies". It doesn't help that the series has somewhat of a reputation for its clone characters due to Melee having a bunch of them, so most can't really fathom how Chrom would be all that different from Marth or Ike, especially since he's from the same series.note  But I suppose that this is just a consequence of having a large fandom.

By the way, considering how often this discussion of Chrom has popped up, has there been any sort of hints or leaks that alludes to a third Fire Emblem character being in the fourth game? Or is it mostly just wishful thinking?

edited 4th Jul '14 4:59:38 PM by Customer

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#49048: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:56:14 PM

@Customer Are you sure it's not guns?

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#49049: Jul 4th 2014 at 4:59:24 PM

[up][up]The "Gematsu Leak" has gotten all the newcomers so far except for Rosalina, and kind of Greninja.

Part 1: Animal Crossing Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Miis, Pac-Man.

Part 2: Pokemon from X and Y, Palutena, Shulk, Chrom, Chorus Kids.

There's also how everyone assumes the most recent Lord will be in Smash Bros., a two-game tradition of Roy and Ike.

edited 4th Jul '14 4:59:41 PM by NesClassic

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#49050: Jul 4th 2014 at 5:08:19 PM

[up]Oh I see. Thanks.

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