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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#48376: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:03:35 AM

These are some pretty serious accusations. Especially since things like "the fingers don't look like Mewtwo's" are pretty minor. Compare that to how Greninja used a pose similar to Mewtwo when it's charging it's Shadow Ball, and Lucario had already been announced. Additionally, even without Melee, Mewtwo is far more well-known to people unfamiliar with the games than Greninja. Put all of it together, it's no wonder people mistook the shadowy silhouette.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
For The Most Ridley-culous Cause
#48377: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:04:46 AM

I thought it was Crash Bandicoot at first so ignore me completely.

(I'm not joking, I didn't get to watch it until about midnight but still... I slapped myself immediately afterwards)

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Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#48378: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:09:16 AM

  • 64: Mario, Luigi, Pikachu, Fox, Link, Kirby.
  • Melee: Roy, Marth, Pikachu, Pichu, Fox, Link.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#48379: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:12:30 AM

I'm not saying I totally thought it was Mewtwo, or anything.

I'm just saying that it wasn't until I noticed that it was a water shuriken that I was sure it was Greninja.

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#48380: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:42:10 AM

I mained Mario in 64, Game & Watch in Melee, and jointly mained Wario and G&W in Brawl. Though in Brawl I also expanded out to use a lot more characters, and became decently proficient with Luigi, Bowser, DK, Yoshi, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Captain Falcon, and Snake.

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#48381: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:44:25 AM

My main was Captain Falcon in Smash 64, Young Link, Falco, Luigi, Marth in Melee, and Marth in Brawl.

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#48382: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:49:31 AM

EDIT 

As I mentioned earlier, playing the Gen VI Pokemon games doesn't mean anything; there are players of those games that still thought they were looking at Mewtwo until it became more obvious to them what it was (like me). There are even people who who haven't played those games and knew it was Greninja (or at least not Mewtwo) regardless.

As for whether or not it was deliberate (which I didn't think anyone was arguing about until just now; I thought the consensus was that it wasn't), well, it's not above Sakurai to tease his fans on occasion (just be glad that it's nothing like the trolling that happens regarding Capcom's games), but I think his teasing here only amounted to a variation of "Who's That Pokemon". I doubt it was intentionally trying to say "LOOK GUYS, IT'S MEWTWO!"note  (I feel that same way about people thinking he was trolling Waluigi fans at certain points as well).

We won't know if it was deliberate unless Sakurai states it somewhere, which I doubt will happen. In my opinion, hindsight indicates that the mix-up wasn't on purpose at all, but I think there are enough variables during an initial viewing to make one think that it was.note 


You know what I do love about that Charizard and Greninja video? That while all the other fighters send projectiles at Charizard, Mario just runs right in alongside all the other projectiles to fight Charizard himself, when he could've just launched a fire ball. I just love that, and I'm not even sure why.

I really hope Sakurai decides to add more movies like that in the actual games (as in, the ones that aren't trailers that we've already seen). Maybe he could tack them on completion of a character's single-player mode (like Classic or All-Star), but I doubt he'd do it that way since he intended the Brawl cutscenes to be a reward and would probably be wary of having more movies be rewards as well.

edited 22nd Jun '14 2:43:03 PM by Customer

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#48383: Jun 22nd 2014 at 9:29:00 PM

Greatest Brawl Snapshots.

135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311
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#48384: Jun 22nd 2014 at 10:50:20 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Let's be clear here. I'm not against the idea that people think it was Mewtwo (even though Ninja Hand Seals done at the beginning should tip people that it is not Mewtwo).

What I am against is how people think the whole set-up was an intentional ribbing towards Mewtwo fans, that apparently Sakurai "made it so" to resemble Mewtwo when in fact it isn't.

edited 22nd Jun '14 10:51:55 PM by Ookamikun

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Eldrake Since: Oct, 2009
#48388: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:15:53 PM

Okay, now he's just doing this on purpose.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#48389: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:20:09 PM

(Ridley intensifies)

edited 22nd Jun '14 11:20:26 PM by TheMageofFire

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#48390: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:35:11 PM

Even when there's a weird stage, whenever size is mentioned it always comes back to Ridley. Always.

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#48391: Jun 22nd 2014 at 11:53:19 PM

All the comments I've seen for this post boil down to either pirates or shipping. Edward Kenway confirmed!

edited 22nd Jun '14 11:56:27 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
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#48392: Jun 23rd 2014 at 12:08:14 AM

I know people are just joking around with Ridley, but I'm really worried and creeped out that there are people who are serious about any size comments being related to Ridley.

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Just a simple hero
#48394: Jun 23rd 2014 at 12:56:38 AM

Pic not Sonic related to celebrate his 23rd anniversary, 5/10, would not play. tongue

At least the Fairy Queen being so big can partially be justified with the whole stage in general kinda being scaled in relation to Pac-Man's proportions to keep as 1:1 to Pac-Land as possible. Rosalina being so big is because space-stuff and, I dunno, she's part giant or something. tongue

edited 23rd Jun '14 12:56:57 AM by TechPowah

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#48395: Jun 23rd 2014 at 12:59:11 AM

I feel like they should've had Palutena in today's daily as well. Then the "match made in heaven" comment would've been even more of a pun. tongue

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#48396: Jun 23rd 2014 at 1:04:22 AM

Power Makes You Tall?

On a sidenote, I have no idea how I didn't notice her hugeness until Mario Kart Wii bluntly put her in the same category as Bowser. Guess tiny ol' Mario is not the best reference point.

edited 23rd Jun '14 1:04:58 AM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#48397: Jun 23rd 2014 at 1:20:47 AM

For some reason I have trouble parsing that Peach would be taller than me, going by that chart. [lol] And I've always felt that Rosalina's size was partly due to "Power Makes You Tall" and partly due to needing something to make her less like a Peach clone at first glance.

edited 23rd Jun '14 1:21:28 AM by Customer

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HOT DOG
#48398: Jun 23rd 2014 at 1:26:01 AM

Going by that size comparison, Peach would be about as tall as me. Damn.

Rosa's a frickin' giant.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#48399: Jun 23rd 2014 at 1:34:00 AM

Geez louise, Rosalina is gigantic. That's insane...and naturally alluring to me.

edited 23rd Jun '14 1:34:07 AM by TheMageofFire

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#48400: Jun 23rd 2014 at 1:37:37 AM

I'm only around 5'8, so even NPC!Luigi would be taller, Peach would almost completely tower over me, and Rosalina's just...woah. surprised

Also, the corresponding trope is Statuesque Stunner, Mage. Which I might need to second that. tongue

edited 23rd Jun '14 1:38:07 AM by TechPowah

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