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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#47901: Jun 16th 2014 at 5:49:33 PM

I want a Mr.L costume... ;_;

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#47902: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:04:48 PM

They could probably even do it as a promotion and have Inkling as a DLC bonus that you can get when you buy Splatoon day one!

That I would like. You add a cool new character that (most likely) doesn't have a chance here, and you get promotion for a cool new IP.

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#47903: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:08:14 PM

That's actually a pretty neat idea.

Probably won't hapoen, but still an idea, and if course making her available to everyone else sometime after is a must.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#47904: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:09:42 PM

Did somebody already share Conan O'Brien's "Clueless Gamer" video of this game? I'm not sure I know how to search the site correctly for a post like that.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#47905: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:14:19 PM

Yes, many, many pages ago. But here it is again for those that haven't seen it.

edited 16th Jun '14 6:14:36 PM by Customer

nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Let's dance, boys!
#47906: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:21:29 PM

Yes. It was hilarious. It also got the word out to potential consumers so there's also that plus.

Anyway, from hands-off impressions of the game, and other videos about it, the game (the demo really) consensus seem to be: Faster than Brawl, balanced out throughout the characters, but still feel like Brawl in terms of overall feeling. But I've heard that Treehouse members did in fact take notes from the pros and other impressions of the demo, so that means they may tweak some gameplay mechanics to address their criticisms, so that's good to hear.

Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 Smash
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#47907: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:33:43 PM

I honestly have no issue with what amounts to a faster Brawl- Going back to Melee feels like everything's happening on Jupiter.

I sure said that!
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#47908: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:35:57 PM

It's not like most people want a second coming of Melee from what I've heard—the most common complaint everyone seems to be giving is to increase the dashdance window and make attacks have less recovery. No weird air dodging mechanic requests from what I see.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#47909: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:36:36 PM

[up][up]And Brawl itself is on Pluto. Looks like we may be on Earth at last.

edited 16th Jun '14 6:37:34 PM by BaffleBlend

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#47910: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:39:07 PM

The main complaint that I'm hearing is that the game is a bit too defensive, as you have to really commit to your attacks, and if you miss, you'll probably bite the dust, which is prompting players to actually be too afraid to press buttons.

Less overall recovery sounds like the best way to solve this. Maybe we'll see Bowser and DK be more successful, since their recovery seems untouched compared to the other characters.

I do hope the developers do take the Treehouse questions to heart.

edited 16th Jun '14 6:40:32 PM by Tatsumar

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nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Let's dance, boys!
#47911: Jun 16th 2014 at 6:59:38 PM

They probably will, because the act of Nintendo Treehouse members taking notes about people's impressions and criticisms of the game (constructive criticisms of course, not the "HURR DURR SMASH 4 IS BJUST BRAWL HD!!!!!111!" from the less reasonable among the fans) of the game on the show floor by itself shows that they are seeking input into what they think of the gameplay.

Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 Smash
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#47912: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:04:51 PM

Smash 4 might be Brawl 2.0, but it still has custom moves and Mii Fighters and specialized online play and new characters, so that's enough for me.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47913: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:21:12 PM

I'm not sure I understand the "Not enough like Melee" complaints about SSB 4. The Melee players have Project M now, they don't NEED another Smash Bros. game since Project M is everything they want already. Unless they just want a graphical update that the Wii can't handle.

edited 16th Jun '14 7:21:27 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Blueblur21 Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#47914: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:21:51 PM

I'm buying it so I can beat the crap out of everyone with Wii Fit Trainer and Palutena.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#47915: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:26:01 PM

[up][up]Well Project M doesn't have the new characters in the engine, and chances are they won't get them any time soon either unless the team hacks a Wii U game and makes Project M2.

I couldn't care less, honestly, but there you have it.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#47916: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:28:14 PM

I never got what people liked so much about Melee. Now it feels so slow and heavy and choppy. Was it because people had already studied the metagame and didn't want to see it changed?

What about Smash 64! What's the deal with all this "holding smashes" and "two characters that act as one" and "trophies"???

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#47917: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:31:16 PM

Watch some high level Melee play and maybe you'll change your tune about the game being slow.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47918: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:31:40 PM

Replaying Melee feels way too heavy for my liking, like we're fighting on Jupiter. I can agree that Brawl goes too far in the other direction, but personally I think Brawl was closer to the ideal center than Melee was, just on the opposite side. From what I've heard, SSB 4 is between the two but leans closer to Brawl, so that's great news for me.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#47919: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:34:11 PM

I can't handle Melee. Even when I played it long before Brawl was announced I found it to be too freaking heavy and fast. Not to mention Yoshi looked creepy as balls *shudder*

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47920: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:35:47 PM

Bowser looked weird to me in Melee, as well. Like... some kind of chicken/t-rex hybrid. Brawl Bowser was a vast improvement, and 4 Bowser looks even better, if somewhat less fierce-looking.

edited 16th Jun '14 7:36:57 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#47921: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:36:12 PM

"YOSHI"

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HOT DOG
#47922: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:49:31 PM

[up][up]My friend and I always joked that Bowser seemed to be hitting the steroids in Melee.

When you wish upon a side of beef, soon will come an end to all your grief
BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
Hey there! Having fun?
#47923: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:51:48 PM

As we're discussing in the Wii U thread, SSB4 might be in trouble.

Capcom's currently for sale and, thus, highly vulnerable. Should they be bought, it would be a legal nightmare to get the game out the door.

"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#47924: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:53:54 PM

Pretty damn sure whoever did so wouldn't be allowed to break off licensing deals that have already gone through and (presumably) have had money change hands.

I have a message from another time...
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#47925: Jun 16th 2014 at 7:54:44 PM

...You do realize that they'd have to let Mega Man be in Smash bros since that contract was before the purchase? It's the same thing that happened with the Spider Man series when Marvel was bought by Disney.


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