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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47601: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:33:38 PM

Yeah, Wireframe Mac was confirmed, that's why I put him. Same with the Villager and Wii Fit Trainer having alternate-gender designs, though they seem to function more like palette swaps.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#47603: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:35:10 PM

[up][up]They'd have to, otherwise the hitboxes would be altered.

edited 14th Jun '14 2:35:41 PM by BaffleBlend

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#47604: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:37:51 PM

Ah, so Super Dragon for Yoshi was shown at some point.

I still can't get over Marth self-destructing with his FS [lol]

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47605: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:39:18 PM

Still no idea on Toon Link. I'm hoping for Ballad of Gales, but it'll probably just be Triforce Slash again, if Sheik's didn't change either.

[up][up]...No, they wouldn't. The female Villager and male WFT are the same size and general shape as their male and female counterparts. They'd use the same hitboxes.

edited 14th Jun '14 2:41:28 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
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Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#47607: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:45:11 PM

It is Triforce Slash, unfortunately.[nja]

edited 14th Jun '14 2:45:36 PM by Null

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Strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#47608: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:45:14 PM

That explains why the Treehouse didn't show much of him.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#47609: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:45:59 PM

Yeah, he was 3DS-only, and it showed. They hadn't made any noticeable changes of him.

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#47610: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:47:34 PM

That's probably the only thing I'm disappointed with the fourth game. I was really hoping that Sheik and Toon Link would get new Final Smashes, especially after seeing Zero Suit Samus's new one (though I suppose hers was justified due to her old FS not working with the character split).

Also, Pikachu's FS seemed underwhelming, but I wonder if that was just because of the player.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#47611: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:48:24 PM

I hate that Marth's FS got rid of the HP bar.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#47612: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:48:56 PM

Pikachu's FS is perfect. It's very strong, but hard to control. Nicely balanced, unlike Super Sonic.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#47613: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:49:42 PM

Pikachu's FS is effective in the right hands, so it's probably that.

Anyway, I can kinda understand Sheik retaining the light arrows since she doesn't really have much to go on anyway, but it feels like they're going out of their way to make TL as cloneish as possible instead of picking some obvious moves.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#47614: Jun 14th 2014 at 2:59:46 PM

I hate that Marth's FS got rid of the HP bar.

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#47615: Jun 14th 2014 at 3:02:29 PM

Yeah I thought I had saw it before. Looks like they just made it less noticeable now.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#47616: Jun 14th 2014 at 3:05:39 PM

I'd wait until we can see Toon Link in a more complete form, to be honest.

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BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#47617: Jun 14th 2014 at 3:08:29 PM

[up][up][up]Good. Marth is Boring, but Practical incarnate. He doesn't need any more help in the "boring" part.

edited 14th Jun '14 3:08:49 PM by BaffleBlend

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#47618: Jun 14th 2014 at 3:18:00 PM

Well I tried to get to the Best Buy event today.

I ended up going to 2 Best Buys because the first one didn't have it.

And even though the 2nd one had the event, it turned out that I had to reserve a spot in some list in order to actually play it. So I ended up just watching the thing when it was like 20 minutes before 5:00.

Crap. tongue

Still, the stuff I saw was majestic. And I scored 2 Smash Bros. buttons and a Mario Kart 8 flag.

KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#47619: Jun 14th 2014 at 3:32:46 PM

Considering that Toon Link hasn't been confirmed to have any new moves at all and that Sakurai makes it a rule that Link and T Link have the same moves, I'm not remotely surprised the FS is the same and I don't expect Toon Link to ever change.

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#47620: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:22:56 PM

Went to the Best Buy thing today.

Played as Greninja and Luigi very briefly in the 3DS version. Kinda felt like there was a bit of input lag, oddly enough. Because we had to stop when it was our turn to play the Wii U version, I start playing it in the middle of one match and stopped in the middle of another. Kind of weird. Wish they had passed it around to people waiting in line like I hear they did at some locations, rather than have people play it right before the Wii U version.

Made the mistake of playing as Rosalina in the Wii U version. Too busy trying to figure out how to do stuff with Luma to actually KO anyone. tongue

Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#47621: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:24:51 PM

[up][up]It may have been a better route to have made him an alt this time around, like Male WFT and Female Villager. Even if nothing else were to change, it'd be a more accurate classification.

edited 14th Jun '14 4:25:21 PM by Null

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#47622: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:27:35 PM

[up]Except for Hitbox Dissonance up your ass.

edited 14th Jun '14 4:27:47 PM by Elbruno

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#47623: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:35:22 PM

I'm aware of that - I was suggesting retaining Toon Link as he exists now; voice, hitbox and animations included, but treating him as an alt rather than a full fighter.

edited 14th Jun '14 4:36:18 PM by Null

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#47624: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:36:01 PM

He'd look quite strange indeed with adult Link's proportions.

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#47625: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:38:13 PM

Are there any hands-on impressions that bring up issues with the Luma Shot, Rosalina's Neutral B? Because it seemed kind of janky to me. Like, sometimes I'd press B while Luma was right next to Rosalina, and nothing would happen.


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