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fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#47476: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:03:47 AM

The games are still a long time coming, so some reveals are still bound to happen.

Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#47477: Jun 14th 2014 at 4:58:16 AM

Maybe we get a reveal at Gamescom in mid August.

fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#47479: Jun 14th 2014 at 5:40:25 AM

Plot twist: Chrom is a fencer. He exclusively uses stabs instead of slashes. The crowd rejoices.

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#47480: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:08:48 AM

I'm generally in favour of having Chrom/Robin paired up with Einherjar to convey the 'battlefield commander' aspect of their role. Pulling in mages, archers, cavaliers etc. from across the series for special attacks would do a better job of representing the series as a whole than any one character who isn't Anna.

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fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#47481: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:12:48 AM

I think Robin alone would do that just fine... A character using other characters as attacks is always kinda iffy. Characters summoning random objects to attack with is one thing, but pulling whole people out of hammerspace is a bit much.

Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#47482: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:18:30 AM

Assist trophies do something very similar; as do regular assists in many fighting games. I don't think having a character jump out of a portal during a special attack would interrupt the pace of a battle too much.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#47483: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:43:00 AM

[up] See also: Zelda and her Phantom Slash.

Would their character summons have the reduced framerate of Assist Trophies?

FE's villains tend to at least be truly massive Tin Tyrants and much more often physically immense dragons and god-like beings. Medeus, the Black Knight, Ashnard, Ashera and Grima all seem like they'd make very cool bosses, but only that.

Of course, Grima, unlike the Red Dragon, does have an independent target "commanding" the larger dragon body, which is the right size for Smash. That would probably mean Grima's full form would only be seen in a Final Smash, though.

edited 14th Jun '14 6:43:34 AM by Enlong

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#47484: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:45:08 AM

I'd say telling who that unit is would be a big spoiler, but since they pretty much spoiled the entirety of the Chaos Kin arc in Uprising I guess worrying about spoilers is a non-issue.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#47485: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:46:22 AM

That said, I much prefer the heroic version of Robin, as a playable character.

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fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#47486: Jun 14th 2014 at 6:50:21 AM

Technically it would work (although, does Chrom actually have, like, portal-summoning abilities?), but it's just hard to imagine how it could be done without being weird in some fashion.

Okay, so... Chrom with only standard, jack-of-all-stats sword attacks for his A-moves, and for his B-moves, he steps back a little and very briefly summons a character? So his up-B would summon some magical healer unit who helps him recover with white magic that lets him float for a moment, his down-B would summon a tanky guy to absorb damage for him and counterattack, side-B summons a wizard unit in the background who calls forth some form of magic projectile (a medium-range flame pillar?), neutral-B... something-something? And the interesting part is that all these characters actually stay on the field for a moment after doing their thing, giving the move a certain cool-down time, not restricting Chrom's movement but restricting his ability to spam that particular B-move? Except the magic-users could just stand in the background and cast their magic from there?

I dunno. Could work, I guess.

... still give me Shantae or Quote instead, though.

(I actually managed to convince myself that Quote has the slightest chance in hell of making it, please help me.)

edited 14th Jun '14 6:52:25 AM by fawriel

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#47487: Jun 14th 2014 at 7:27:59 AM

From last page:

How *do* you avoid Tabuu's full-screen attack?

ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#47488: Jun 14th 2014 at 7:33:40 AM

[up][up]I just worked out a multiple character moveset for Chrom a few pages ago.

edited 14th Jun '14 7:34:02 AM by ScorpioRat

Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#47489: Jun 14th 2014 at 7:36:53 AM

You dodge on the spot, the timing's hard to get right, but dodging to the side will either have the wave hit you anyways, or send you into the next wave, and your Shield WILL fail you.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#47490: Jun 14th 2014 at 7:40:45 AM

Nah, I was able to Roll-dodge it just fine. At least with Donkey Kong, I remember.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#47492: Jun 14th 2014 at 7:59:10 AM

I'll ask again: has anyone heard the rumors about the Chunky Kong Assist Trophy? According to reports, he does a Simian Slam and makes it rain Banana Bunches, which both hurt people and leave banana peels everywhere.

What do you guys think about it? Do you think it's real?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47493: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:04:47 AM

No video/picture evidence yet, just word of mouth here and there.

I've seen two people cite it, and I can believe it. It's interesting because I don't know if Nintendo bought Chunky from Rare itself.

edited 14th Jun '14 8:05:22 AM by Irene

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#47494: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:14:40 AM

[up] Nintendo themselves owns Diddy, Dixie, Tiny, Funky, K. Rool, the Kremlings, and Krystal. All of them were created by Rare for Nintendo franchises.

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#47495: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:15:24 AM

[up][up]I think Chunky was in that crappy Wii Donkey Kong barrel racing game, along with many other Donkey Kong 64 characters.

edited 14th Jun '14 8:15:37 AM by FawfulCrump

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#47496: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:18:02 AM

[up]Chunky was the only one of the five Kongs who wasn't, actually.

Although he did appear as a Sticker in Brawl. So we have that.

edited 14th Jun '14 8:18:17 AM by NesClassic

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fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#47497: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:20:14 AM

Speaking of rights, apparently Nicalis bought the publishing rights, so I guess that would mean Nintendo would have to approach them for the rights to Quote, probably? And they aren't a second-party to Nintendo as I'd hoped. So I guess Quote is even more terribly unlikely than I feared. Alas.

I just worked out a multiple character moveset for Chrom a few pages ago.
Come on now, you can't expect me to, like, read a post defending Chrom. What kind of a Smash Bros discussion thread would this be if everyone went into this actually well-informed and willing to listen? That's the way of progress, and progress is scary.

... That said, I'm not sure about some of your choices. Like, would that Sumia-powered up-B recovery involve summoning Sumia including her entire winged-freaking-horse? That would be huge, dude. That sounds like about 1300 Milliridleys for an up-B move. ... As I said, it'd be hard to make summoning entire characters for a single move not seem weird.

edited 14th Jun '14 8:29:12 AM by fawriel

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47498: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:20:27 AM

[up][up][up] He was omitted.

[up][up][up][up] Ah. Thanks.

edited 14th Jun '14 8:21:31 AM by Irene

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#47499: Jun 14th 2014 at 8:21:23 AM

[up]x5 Yeah anything that Rare created that was put into a Nintendo IP belongs to Nintendo.

The only things that don't count are Conker and Banjo from Diddy Kong's Racing and Jet-Pac mini game from DK 64.

Conker and Banjo were only put in to promote their up coming games. Jet-Pac was created in 1983 or 1984 when Rare was still independent.

But it would be nice to think what could have been. When Rare left for Microsoft, Nintendo actually owned every single IP Rare created with Nintendo but Nintendo decided to give Rare everything except DK characters and Star Fox characters.

edited 14th Jun '14 8:21:57 AM by Halberdier17

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure

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