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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#47226: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:00:52 PM

Erm. I really don't think that's how it went (wouldn't they have had a name for him back then?), but I get the feeling I'm not going to be persuasive enough on this track.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#47227: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:00:57 PM

I'm unreasonably paranoid that newcomers will overshadow the veterans, like what happened in Brawl. I know it's almost baseless, but I have difficulty controlling this feeling.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#47228: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:02:31 PM

[up][up]Maybe not. It seems perfectly plausible to me that sometimes in the Pokemon design process they'll have decided on a particular design without necessarily having finalized a name.

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#47229: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:04:26 PM

Also, didn't he add "Pokemon from X and Y" to his list long after Greninja's name was known?

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#47230: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:04:38 PM

[up][up]

[up]No.

edited 12th Jun '14 5:05:04 PM by Konkfan7

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47231: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:04:59 PM

[up][up] Nope. Other way around.

He had information before the first e3. If he knew it was Greninja, he would've listed it at that. He had to have had the full list(except Mii Fighters, which he found out later, apparently) before the first e3. When he listed 3 of the 6 shown.

edited 12th Jun '14 5:07:47 PM by Irene

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#47232: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:15:12 PM

The original leak mentioned Animal Crossing Guy instead of Villager for some reason, and the third leak said Goddess Palutena instead of just Palutena. Plus there's dispute over whether he has outdated information or not. Holes do exist in the leak, but the important points seem to be true so far.

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#47233: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:18:33 PM

I don't know. It still feels like he cast out some wide nets and managed a few high-profile educated guesses.

I'm not convinced until we see the Chorus Bros. Perhaps.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#47234: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:22:32 PM

Yeah. I'm going to have to agree with needing to see the Chorus Men before accepting that jazz.
Honestly, I hope its wrong. I want the oddball choice to be Takamaru and I still want Mewtwo to come back. (plus Ridley)

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#47235: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:25:28 PM

Nor am I. Only his first of 3 leaks remains true overall. He's got two more to go. Post-game DLC is not hard to believe, and both Mother characters staying isn't either, so the 3rd leak(that listed Mii Fighters, and as for Goddess Palutena, that might've been Salromano's own words, not Gematsu. It's weird in that case. Also, that's pretty much a title for her "role" in the series, so it might've been as silly as saying "Plumber Mario" for fun. I don't find it a very good point right now, since the character is the same regardless.)

To prove the second leak real, we need Chorus Men/Marshall, Shulk, and Chrom.

To prove the 3rd, we at least need post-game DLC. Ness or Lucas cut more or less proves it(bar DLC not showing up). However, if he got the information early on, DLC not showing up doesn't mean much as that's a lot of time for minds to change. I am expecting DLC, due to the leak having quite literally 8/13 parts right.

[up] All of those are possible. Rosalina showing up shows he didn't mean all the newcomers, likewise, he also didn't say it as all the newcomers. Veterans and Newcomers besides those are of course possible.

edited 12th Jun '14 5:26:22 PM by Irene

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FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#47236: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:56:37 PM

On another topic, now that I've been able to, I think Greninja's voice is the only thing about it that I don't like.

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#47237: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:00:00 PM

Any clips of Greninja's voice?

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#47238: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:04:11 PM

I heard it here, only during the Final Smash I could hear it clearly.

OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#47239: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:05:42 PM

Is that greninja or little mac?

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Vgm3 This is the Monado's power! from Miami, Florida Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#47240: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:09:55 PM

That was Greninja, I heard him yell something like "NINJA!" at the end.

edited 12th Jun '14 6:10:06 PM by Vgm3

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OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#47241: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:11:02 PM

oh ok. I gotta be honest, it doesn't fit at all, but I kinda love how fist of the north star it is.

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#47242: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:12:23 PM

What's baffling me about the potential addition of the Chorus Men is that I have no idea how it would work gameplay-wise. Would it be like Ice Climbers except controlling three characters instead of two? (I hope not, that would be a technical nightmare)

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#47243: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:13:27 PM

Or perhaps they'd effectively have one hitbox and sort of perform coordinated moves.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#47244: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:14:13 PM

Maybe it's just a Chorus Man who uses a baton and music notes to attack. I wonder how Parappa the Rapper worked in that one Playstation Battle Royale game.

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#47245: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:14:44 PM

I'm actually not sure if Greninja yells "GEKKOUGA" or "GRENINJA!" at the end of his Final Smash, if it's the former then I'd assume that's his Japanese voice.

edited 12th Jun '14 6:15:00 PM by FullMoon

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#47246: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:15:28 PM

Hey, here's a question. Does Palutena have that Mario star charm on her belt from that supposed leak some time ago?

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#47247: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:15:43 PM

[up][up][up]But if it's just one, why would it be listed as Chorus Men? Or am I overthinking/being too nitpicky?

[up]Just looking at Palutena's face in the game vs. in the leak is evidence that the leak was fake.

edited 12th Jun '14 6:16:53 PM by RavenKingSage

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#47248: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:17:23 PM

That wasn't a star back then, in the same pics, it shows that it's just one of her regular little charms.

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#47249: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:18:05 PM

If we're talking about the Gematsu leak, I'm not so sure I buy it. Miis, Palutena, and Pac-Man were, like, the three most likely characters. I consider it possible, though.

If it is true I'll be sorta annoyed, not just because we're losing Lucas and Snake but because it irks me that some guy would leak confidential info and ruin it for everyone just to look smart and get attention. Fake leakers are annoying trolls, but real leakers annoy me to no end. There's a reason stuff is kept secret.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47250: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:19:41 PM

I'd like to remind people that he didn't say "Lucas is cut", he said he might be. Second, he spoke of no other Veterans or Newcomers. Snake could very well come back, and that leak has nothing to do with him.

I wouldn't assume they're gone, but I'm a bit worried too.

edited 12th Jun '14 6:25:17 PM by Irene

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