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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#47201: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:43:59 PM

Eh. I put no stock in that leak until we see a confirmation for the Chorus Team. People like to cite the characters it's gotten right, but damn near all of those were easy guesses. I mean, wow, he was right about Palutena? And Pac Man? Shocker.

And I'm still very skepical of it because of the "Pokemon from X and Y" thing. Heck, it later turned out that they did have a placeholder slot for Pokemon, but not specifically for X and Y.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#47202: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:44:20 PM

I wouldn't mind DLC characters given that that's why I play these games in the first place: the characters.

[up]True. Apparently, Greninja was definitively in from very early on.

edited 12th Jun '14 4:45:23 PM by zeromaeus

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#47203: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:44:54 PM

He was right about Wii Fit Trainer.

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#47204: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:45:09 PM

Yeah, but Wii Fit Trainer is a very out there idea.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#47205: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:45:38 PM

My god, the closest thing to a lead from one of Nintendo's biggest new IPs got into Smash. Shocking!

edited 12th Jun '14 4:45:57 PM by Pulse

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#47206: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:46:12 PM

Sure, it's easy to say that now, but really, next to one would've guessed it at the time.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#47207: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:46:27 PM

If the leak had explicitly named Greninja then I'd be inclined to believe it since no one saw him coming but it didn't. At most the person is just very lucky right now.

edited 12th Jun '14 4:47:04 PM by Kostya

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#47208: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:46:35 PM

Wii Fit Trainer, plus he got Mii Fighter right. I'm actually of the mind that Pokemon from X and Y hurts the leak more than helps it, even considering our recent information about Greninja, but it's possible it didn't have a name for awhile.

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#47209: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:48:44 PM

In retrospect, though, it made a lot of sense; it was one of Nintendo's precious few high-profile I Ps since Pikmin.

And having one or two out-there educated guesses in a list otherwise full of very easy-to-peg characters is great for something you're passing off as a leak. If even one of those out-there choices gets in, that gets people invested in your list, and more likely to cite you as correct when the easy guesses are revealed. Which makes them believe your other out-there guesses will also be true.

[up] Miis are another pretty safe choice. If Wii Fit was one of Nintendo's most prominent new I Ps, Miis are their most breakout mascot character in years. Now, if he'd pegged that there'd be three kinds of Mii fighters, that'd be impressive.

edited 12th Jun '14 4:50:50 PM by Enlong

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#47210: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:48:48 PM

Question. Why did we not hear about this as soon as Wii Fit Trainer was revealed a year ago? It's only been floating around for a couple months.

I don't buy it.

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#47211: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:50:59 PM

The Wii Fit Trainer bit from last year is what's making me put some stock in this leak. Nobody could have guessed that. And apparently the guy leaked the UMvC3 roster and was correct, so...

[up]Last year, shortly before E3, Gematsu leaked Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man.

edited 12th Jun '14 4:52:09 PM by RavenKingSage

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#47212: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:51:51 PM

[up][up]The original leak has been around since before E3 2013. That post links to the evidence.

edited 12th Jun '14 4:52:10 PM by beorc

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#47213: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:52:04 PM

This leak was released before we got even a single trailer for the new smash bros.

It gained popularity over time.

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#47214: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:52:29 PM

I wouldn't say nobody.

Yeah, it's an out-there choice, but it's also a prominent Nintendo IP. If you're building a list like that, adding one or two such names costs you nothing and makes you look really credible if it does happen.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#47215: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:53:20 PM

Then why are we just hearing about it nine months later?

Sorry, I call all kinds of bullshit.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#47216: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:53:26 PM

Some people can get extremely lucky. You heard of the Pokemon remakes, OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire? Well, a guy on some gaming forum guessed those names a year before they were announced. Okay, okay, he said "Alpha Ruby and Omega Sapphire", but close enough to be called a time-traveling wizard.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#47217: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:54:33 PM

[up][up]I first heard about it shortly after E3 2013. Just because you didn't hear about it till now doesn't mean it didn't exist.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47218: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:55:22 PM

Sakurai outright did admit he had it down as "Pokemon from X & Y" and that he chose Greninja based upon his early design. I forget what order of those two events happened first.

The leaker didn't know it was Greninja till later(if he was around that long). His information about Ness/Lucas sound heavily like he was there for a while, but Mii Fighters as a name might've been recent. It's likely that Mii Fighters were decided upon early in development, before Gematsu(I don't know his correct name, but let's go with that) knew Greninja was the exact character.

I've found the link believable, but I agree it isn't confirmed till all of it comes up. If Ness or Lucas is cut, it helps the leak. If neither is, it means nothing since the leak said one "might" be cut.

@Bad Wolf: Because nobody put it on this thread at all. For whatever reason. Still existed as a "leak"(true or not).

edited 12th Jun '14 4:56:23 PM by Irene

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#47219: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:56:05 PM

The leaker specifically said Mii Fighter before the Direct. Miis were obvious, that specific term was not.

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#47220: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:56:20 PM

I hope Lucas and Ness aren't cut. I really like those two.

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#47221: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:57:05 PM

[up][up][up]Er, I heard it differently. If I remember Tuesday's roundable right, he just had it down as a Pokemon character, with no consideration for Generation, until he saw Greninja's design.

[up][up] "Fighter" is a pretty generic qualifier. If he'd said there'd be three types of Mii Fighter, I'd be impressed.

edited 12th Jun '14 4:58:14 PM by Enlong

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#47222: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:57:41 PM

No way in hell is Ness getting cut; he's one of the original twelve.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#47223: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:58:34 PM

I think that what will happen is that Ness, Captain Falcon, and Mr. Game and Watch will get in, but no one else will. At least, that's probably what would make me the most happy.

If Ness does get in, they'd have their work cut out for them. Though, I heard that he was alright in 64, at least for a time.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47224: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:58:47 PM

[up][up][up] I think that means that he saw Greninja, then put it down as Pokemon from X & Y, since it was a beta design.

Thanks for helping correct the order of information. smile

edited 12th Jun '14 4:58:57 PM by Irene

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#47225: Jun 12th 2014 at 4:59:23 PM

[up][up]...Why would that make you most happy?

edited 12th Jun '14 4:59:32 PM by beorc

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