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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#46776: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:38:28 AM

Metal Man doesn't even have a Helmet...

Its basically would be Kirby with a brown Mega Man Helmet instead of the regular blue one.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46777: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:39:52 AM

Metal Man has a helmet-ish thing...

I know it'll just be the classic blue helmet, though.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#46778: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:39:58 AM

Why would it be brown? I don't understand.

Why is this even a question?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46779: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:41:15 AM

When Mega Man selects to use Metal Blade in Mega Man 2, his color scheme turns brown.

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#46780: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:41:52 AM

I like how Giga Bowser looks at least.

For some reason I'm really liking the Smashville stage.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#46781: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:43:11 AM

[up]Oh, well what do you think about the "Town & City" version in Smash 4...

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#46782: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:43:28 AM

@Kostya: Giga Bowser does not legitimately exist in the Mario Universe. It was still a made up character for Smash. It wasn't even ported over to that Universe like the Falcon Punch was for F-Zero. It's still just an SSB thing. Unless I missed a game where he finally appeared.

I'm not disappointed, cause I like playing as bosses in general, and he still used to be one. I hope he's much better buffed than in Brawl, where he couldn't do much against enemies(even Melee's version, despite being easy to beat overall, was able to move decently enough to deal damage at a reasonable rate. Plus, good defense even so). Brawl's version had some issues, like being so big he constantly falls off the floor at times and has to constantly grab a ledge. He's useless in Pictochat from my experience. Size is not a good thing unless you can ignore wall/ledges like Mr. Game & Watch's Octopus can.

edited 11th Jun '14 10:44:01 AM by Irene

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Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#46783: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:45:33 AM

Wait... Pac Man's in too? I...didn't think he was Smash material, honestly. But it works, eheh.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#46784: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:46:27 AM

Well G&W's Octopus is not just a resized version of the character with no flinching, it has the advantage in that area.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#46785: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:48:10 AM

I just hope they fix that glitch - maybe a glitch, maybe a simple oversight - where Giga Bowser always lasts the same amount of time, regardless of game speed. I've only heard this happening in Training Mode, though.

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#46786: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:48:22 AM

Oh, well what do you think about the "Town & City" version in Smash 4...
I love it. I think my newfound fondness for it is just because I played New Leaf (my first and only AC game so far), so now I appreciate all the references it has.

edited 11th Jun '14 10:52:03 AM by Customer

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#46787: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:48:38 AM

I could have sworn we've had this conversation before, but while the demonicy giga bowser has never appeared in the Mario series, the concept of Bowser growing bigger has appeared many times, and almost certainly helped inspire giga bowser.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#46788: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:49:36 AM

@Randomness: That's kind of my point. Giga Bowser wasn't that well made as a Final Smash.

That's why I'm disappointed, since he only works in specific arenas, not counting his attacks slowing down if he's constantly attacked. His movement shouldn't be slowed down. That would basically fix the issue and make him actually pretty good, but balanced enough.

[up] Different character entirely. He doesn't "just grow big". He gains new powers, special armor that regular Bowser doesn't have, unique abilities to avoid throws, infinite fire breath in one long stream(that's Melee/Brawl only, at least. Might still work in 4). Giant Bowser =/= Giga Bowser. He was never ever in a Mario game, unless you can actually cite where Giga Bowser appeared in one, even a cameo.

edited 11th Jun '14 10:52:26 AM by Irene

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kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#46789: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:53:58 AM

Irene: I don't remember which came first but in Bowser's Inside Story he can grow bigger when in fatal danger. It's a fact of his biology in the Mario series. Whether or not it's implemented well is one thing but it is indeed something he can do.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#46790: Jun 11th 2014 at 10:57:07 AM

Which isn't Giga Bowser, but Giant Bowser(or you could call him Super Bowser akin to Super Mario when he grows big if you want).

Those are entirely different things. "Growing big" is not what makes Giga Bowser who he is. He's a demonic variant of Giga Bowser who originated in an SSB game. He even started with the SSB symbol as well(and officially listed in the SSB Universe in all available game data that exists). And still has not made an official Mario game appearance.(again, cite it please if it actually exists) Mario Wiki doesn't even have that listed, specifying he outright only appears in the SSB universe, and they're pretty good at keeping on top of that stuff.

As for him using the same symbol as Bowser in Brawl and 4, his symbol doesn't change when Bowser shapeshifts, which isn't that weird. Gameplay oddity, but doesn't mean much. It's a SSB universe Bowser transformation, still not available in the Mario universe. I would love if Giga appeared in a Mario game, sure, but it has yet to happen.

edited 11th Jun '14 10:58:07 AM by Irene

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#46791: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:00:55 AM

Actually, yeah, seeing Giga Bowser in an official Mario game would be cool.

Imagine, you've reached the Bowser final boss fight, and he's about the size he was back in the NES days — just a bit bigger than Mario. You defeat him, he falls off-screen, but then comes back as a giant version of himself. You manage to vanquish him once more, the victory music is playing, the credits are rolling, then BAM! Giga Bowser slashes through the credits, he has dark magical powers, he's summoning Dry Bones and Boos, and he's terrifying.

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kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#46792: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:03:17 AM

Why is this an issue again? A lot of characters have final smashes that don't exist in their game of origin. When did Link use the Triforce Slash? What game does Mario perform the Mario Finale? The Zero Laser Samus uses never existed no matter how similar it is to other attacks.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#46793: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:07:40 AM

I don't know even what you're complaining about here, Kostya. Giga Bowser isn't a Mario character. That was all I was saying.

That's actually official as he doesn't even have a Mario game appearance as is. He's still specific to SSB. I'm sure that the idea of him was inspired by the Mario games in a way, but the actual character is still an original one in the end.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#46794: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:10:45 AM

Because it seems like such a simple thing to change. Just make Bowser bigger and maybe change a little bit how he, for example, stands. It sound much easier than to have completely different model for the Final Smash.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#46795: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:15:14 AM

I admittedly would like to see the Final Smashes make it into an official Mario/Zelda/etc. game.

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Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#46796: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:15:58 AM

Smash on Twitch. Currently it's just discussion of a few of the characters.

edited 11th Jun '14 11:17:30 AM by Customer

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
Laniv Since: Aug, 2010
#46799: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:21:01 AM

Oshawott confirmed as Pokeball summon.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#46800: Jun 11th 2014 at 11:21:14 AM

I'm amused at how the other two players are messing with the guy who's trying to actually showcase things.

Sonic still has Super Sonic as a FS. Sounds like he just says "Super Sonic" when transforming.

Loving Doc in Little Mac's Victory animation there.

edited 11th Jun '14 11:23:04 AM by Customer


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