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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#44576: May 23rd 2014 at 12:17:37 PM

Or the people who thought Yoshi was cut.

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EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44577: May 23rd 2014 at 12:21:37 PM

[up][up][up][up]True, but I doubt we ever had Sakurai's confirmation about this, so let's keep in mind it's Word of Dante.

[up][up][up]I think it's not as simple. It's not just because Kojima said he didn't mind Snake coming back (obviously) that he can easily come back. Right issues are more complicated than that.

I always found it hilarious that because Sakurai said that not all characters were going to come back, fans act like half of Brawl's roster is going to be cut. You know, the Fan Dumb.tongue

edited 23rd May '14 12:22:15 PM by EdouardStrouduk

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Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#44578: May 23rd 2014 at 12:35:29 PM

I hope they tooked Ike's RD design so his model fits Chrom more when he is revealed as an alternate costume together with Lucina as alternate Costume for Marth.

edited 23rd May '14 12:35:43 PM by Kiefen

KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#44579: May 23rd 2014 at 12:36:06 PM

[up][up]People thought he was specifically referring to Brawl characters when it also refers to characters such as Roy and Dr. Mario.

[up]Alt costumes that are different characters are most likely not happening.

edited 23rd May '14 12:36:47 PM by KSonik

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#44580: May 23rd 2014 at 12:42:40 PM

[up][up]They wouldn't do that. If Chrom gets in the game it's as his own character.

EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44581: May 23rd 2014 at 12:52:08 PM

[up][up][up]I honestly hope they don't do that. Alternate costumes must stay alternate costumes in my opinion, not alternate characters. Remember Zero's X costume in Marvel vs. Capcom 3...

[up][up]I do not remember Sakurai saying Mewtwo & co were planned to be brought back for Brawl. I only remember him talking about "avoiding cutting characters" for the next games, though I may be wrong.

edited 23rd May '14 12:55:42 PM by EdouardStrouduk

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#44582: May 23rd 2014 at 12:56:33 PM

We know Mewtwo and the rest of the Forbidden 7 were planned to be in because their code as playable characters were found in Brawl's data. You don't put that in unless you were planning to make them playable at some point.

EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44583: May 23rd 2014 at 1:01:09 PM

They very well could have been coded in just for beta testing purposes for all we know.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#44584: May 23rd 2014 at 1:40:13 PM

We actually found far more data for Roy and Mewtwo than the others. Including character endings and such. He also did say Dixie Kong was planned himself. That's 3/7 that were definitely planned. The other 3(Dr. Mario, Toon Zelda, Toon Sheik) have little more than basic character data, and then there's the heavily disputed Pra_Mai. Nobody knows what it means, but it does match up to the Japanese names of Plusle and Minun.

The only other one, was that he considered putting in Villager during Brawl's development. He spoke of the same character saying that a character like him wouldn't be in Smash(albeit, he possibly meant the series as a whole, but clearly later on only found it applied for Brawl as is). And there he is. Or she, if you will.

As for alternate costumes, I think we could see them this time around for entirely unique characters. Not alternate versions of the same person. It wouldn't hurt to touch up the Daisy costume with the same earrings and proportions. Blood Falcon always came close, even putting his specific logo on Captain Falcon's back, but he lacked the face and shoulder pad. Might as well just add that and call it a day for the costume, imo. The fact Blood Falcon's a clone means you don't even have to mess with the voice. Related, I still wonder if anyone with a voice will have an alternate gender costume.

Shadow?
EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44585: May 23rd 2014 at 1:51:45 PM

I do know Roy and Mewtwo had more data than the others, so it's possible indeed, I'm just pointing out we lack any official confirmation on the subject. I was only talking about characters from Melee, so yes there's also Dixie. The others seem unlikely anyway.

Well, entirely unique characters as alternate costumes wouldn't be hard to put in as you said, but I just have a personal problem with it. For me, if Daisy has to be playable, it'd be as her own character, not as a palette swap for Peach. The same with any other case.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#44586: May 23rd 2014 at 1:57:23 PM

I've gone back and forth on character costumes myself. Right now I'm not really for it, since fans of those characters may not take it too well if all Lucina can be is a Marth costume. Seems unlikely to happen anyway, but who knows.

Fun fact, today is the 9 year anniversary of Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones' release in America. Probably a coincidence, but still an interesting one.

yinyang107 from the True North (Decatroper) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#44587: May 23rd 2014 at 5:24:00 PM

Was that the first American FE, or the second?

zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#44588: May 23rd 2014 at 5:25:28 PM

The second one. The first was just called Fire Emblem in the west.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44590: May 23rd 2014 at 5:37:57 PM

I still like the Weenie Hut Jr./Salty Spitoon thing.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#44591: May 23rd 2014 at 5:38:36 PM

So, my idea...

I mentioned this in my first post here way back then, but I'll explain in better detail now.

I think Jack Frost from the Shin Megami Tensei series should be playable (or maybe just an assist trophy perhaps, but I feel he can be fun to play as). You see, Shin Megami Tensei has had many games on Nintendo consoles (especially nowadays). Jack Frost is to SMT what Pikachu is to Pokemon, so he seems like the best candidate to represent the series. The non-Persona SMT games aren't exactly what you would call well known to casual gamers, so Jack Frost could do what Pit did for his series: bring more attention to it.

His Final Smash should be summoning King Frost to use Cold World, which in-game would probably freeze the whole floor and send huge icicles raining down. Basically, like a slippery, icy, slower PK Starstorm.

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#44592: May 23rd 2014 at 6:47:17 PM

@Nes: [lol] The only thing I would change is to squeeze in For my Friends instead.

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#44593: May 23rd 2014 at 7:47:46 PM

@konk: If you had said Jack Frost from that Dreamworks movie I would have flipped a table right into your kidneys. tongue

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44594: May 23rd 2014 at 7:48:40 PM

Jack Frost is pretty great, but I strongly doubt he'll show up in for.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#44595: May 23rd 2014 at 7:51:36 PM

@ed: How stupid do you think I am? I know the "has to originate from a video game" rule.

@Pulse: yeah... If anything, seeing as Persona is the popular one and with Persona Q coming along, we might get one of the chibi-fied persona characters at best.

... Actually, that wouldn't be too bad.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#44596: May 23rd 2014 at 7:53:36 PM

I really really doubt that. As popular as Persona is, it's a Sony series first and foremost. It would be on PSASBR before anything else.

I could see Flynn having better odds, but not by much.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#44597: May 23rd 2014 at 7:54:42 PM

None of the Persona games have been on Nintendo systems, though. One might look to Devil Survivor.

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#44598: May 23rd 2014 at 7:55:07 PM

[up][up]I'm not sure who could work best, Jack Frost being the mascot, or Flynn being the portagonist of the most recent installment and going to be in Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem.

... Flynn could be good. His specials could involve summoning demons.

HIS FINAL SMASH COULD BE SUMMONING MASAKADO!

[up]Persona Q...

edited 23rd May '14 7:55:36 PM by Konkfan7

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#44600: May 23rd 2014 at 7:56:13 PM

[up]x3

We're getting a Persona game for 3DS next month actually. Still probably won't get a character for it in this series though.

edited 23rd May '14 8:09:04 PM by Chariot


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