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EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44401: May 22nd 2014 at 10:48:19 AM

[up][up]I don't see how it's idiotic to follow the example of an incredibly popular game like Skylanders. And to be fair, we still don't know how they're going to use it, so it's too early to claim that they've "ruined Smash Bros. forever".

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#44402: May 22nd 2014 at 10:50:30 AM

@Baffle: How the hell you could bribe your way to victory in Smash Bros? If it indeed has that feature, its more likely trophies or some weird bonus game mode tongue

Also, its fricking Wii U's technology developed by Nintendo that for SOME reason has only famous case where it has been used is Skylanders. Its more ridiculous that Nintendo hasn't used that feature besides Pokemon Rumble Arena.

edited 22nd May '14 10:51:45 AM by SpookyMask

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#44403: May 22nd 2014 at 10:55:22 AM

[up][up]Super Sonic is listed...

Super Smash Bros Brawl Sonic the Hedgehog 2...

I seriously don't know why exactly he's the only character to be that way, it just is.

Its probably because his trophies and descriptions were some of the last actual additions to the game...they probably thought Super Sonic's 1st appearance was the only one worth mentioning, or because they forgot to do it with the few other characters.

It could be anything.

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#44404: May 22nd 2014 at 10:56:17 AM

[up][up]Now I think they plan to incorporate it into more games. When Nintendo announced NFP they showed an image of a Mario figurine that was able to connect to New Super Mario Bros. U, Super Mario 3D World, and a third game that I couldn't recognize.

edited 22nd May '14 10:56:45 AM by Halberdier17

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EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44405: May 22nd 2014 at 11:03:47 AM

[up][up]I meant that Super Sonic is the only trophy that reference the game it comes from, instead of saying it comes from Brawl, and Brawl only. Sorry, I wasn't very clear.

[up]I remember having read in an interview or something similar, that they planned on exploiting more the Gamepad's capacities in the next main Mario title in development for Wii U, though I'm not sure they talked about the NFC technology in particular.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#44406: May 22nd 2014 at 11:07:25 AM

To be fair, a lot of the Smash Trophies are of the attack itself, not of what's in it that's from the original games (so, for instance, while Olimar does pilot his ship at the end of the day in the Pikmin games, that specific super attack itself was made/arranged for Smash). It's a weird distinction, but that's the way I've always seen it.

But even so, some of the others are directly lifts from other games and should've had them listed - Kirby's, for instance.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#44407: May 22nd 2014 at 11:09:09 AM

[up]That's why I'm confused about why only Sonic got it.

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KSonik Since: Jan, 2015
#44408: May 22nd 2014 at 11:10:02 AM

Is it just me or is Dillon one of the most well-received newcomer A Ts?

EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44409: May 22nd 2014 at 11:11:40 AM

[up]It'd be funny, considering it's the only Assist Trophy revealed so far I didn't know the origin of, and apparently everyone else knew who the guy was, so I kind of looked like an idiot.tongue

[down]I agree, though I don't think they'll go the Bribing Your Way to Victory road, since I doubt it's something someone like Sakurai would approve of.

edited 22nd May '14 11:20:51 AM by EdouardStrouduk

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tenebrousgaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#44410: May 22nd 2014 at 11:13:59 AM

On the one hand I like the concept of NFC figure games and I'd like to see it done well but so far all of them seem to come off as Bribing Your Way to Victory and it would be so very hard to avert that. For Smash Bros, I'd be fine if it was an extra game mode or something of the sort but unlocking fighters with them is something I think goes against the spirit of the series and is hopefully unlikely.

[up][up] I saw a good amount of demand even before Smash4 was announced and he does seem to be a popular little character right now.

edited 22nd May '14 11:16:34 AM by tenebrousgaze

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#44411: May 22nd 2014 at 11:17:27 AM

We don't know yet what they're going to do with this NFC business, so I can't really complain about it. However, I don't think I'll be breaking any rules of etiquette if I mention that the things they could do worry me somewhat.

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#44412: May 22nd 2014 at 11:22:30 AM

Make them unlock trophies, songs, maybe cutscenes

But here's the important bit. Don't make them the only way to get them. Make them convenient, but unnecessary.

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EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44413: May 22nd 2014 at 11:27:12 AM

[up]I think it would kind of lessen the interest of the whole thing if figurines only unlocked you things you could normally get in-game. Of course, I agree it should stay accessory, but what's the interest of buying them then?

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#44414: May 22nd 2014 at 11:29:03 AM

For the same reasons people buy collectables, to collect them.

edited 22nd May '14 11:32:19 AM by FullMoon

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#44415: May 22nd 2014 at 11:30:48 AM

Same reason anyone ever buys hats in Team Fortress 2. For the convenience compared to the alternative.

Also, in this case, they're still collectable figurines of Nintendo characters.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#44416: May 22nd 2014 at 11:32:53 AM

[up][up][up]They could always make it really friggin' hard to unlock normally. F-Zero GX did it to encourage people to play AX to unlock the characters and tracks.

grumble grumble

edited 22nd May '14 11:33:15 AM by Nap1100

EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44417: May 22nd 2014 at 11:38:52 AM

Ok, but if it's just for collection, what's the interest of the whole NFC technology thing? They've already released Nintendo characters figurines in the past, so why would they put so much effort into this thing if it's just for collection?

[up]Even if they do that, I hope they won't be as extreme as F-Zero GX.

edited 22nd May '14 11:39:07 AM by EdouardStrouduk

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#44418: May 22nd 2014 at 11:41:08 AM

As long as there aren't figure-exclusive characters.

The Melee veterans are almost definitely going to be figure-exclusive if Finagle's Law proves right yet again.

(And Skylanders? "Insanely popular"? Give me a break.)

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tenebrousgaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#44419: May 22nd 2014 at 11:45:03 AM

It's certainly popular enough that they keep making more to a ridiculous extent.

EdouardStrouduk from Earth. Physically at least. Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#44420: May 22nd 2014 at 11:48:25 AM

[up][up]I'm not talking about the games's actual quality since I've never played them, but there's no denying the series's extremely popular, and many probably wouldn't look any further to see a reason for them to try to imitate it and reproduce it's success.

edited 22nd May '14 11:49:17 AM by EdouardStrouduk

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#44421: May 22nd 2014 at 12:02:33 PM

Indeed, if the series weren't popular it wouldn't be making so much money.

Obviously, we're outside of the demographic- it's meant to cater to kids (and grab cash from parents). I'll admit that I like the usage of the model for Disney Infinity, since that uses pre-existing popular characters (and two people from Cars 2). And if they do something like that for Smash Bros., I'm certainly not complaining... as long as, like you said, there's no figure-exclusive characters.

I'm thinking it'll actually tie in to the customizable movesets, and figures unlock attacks for certain characters.

edited 22nd May '14 12:03:27 PM by NesClassic

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#44422: May 22nd 2014 at 12:11:15 PM

I wouldn't like that. I'd prefer nonessentials like music and cutscenes.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#44423: May 22nd 2014 at 12:35:00 PM

Well, alternate movesets wouldn't exactly be "essential"...

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#44424: May 22nd 2014 at 12:41:02 PM

Still be real stupid to make exclusive to figures.

Or locked at all, I think.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#44425: May 22nd 2014 at 12:42:19 PM

It would make it easier to transfer to other consoles. That's what I think they'll use it for, anyway.


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