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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#44201: May 18th 2014 at 7:25:03 PM

Do you guys think Nintendo Land will get some sort of representation here? I mean, it'd only make sense to cross the crossovers. Maybe a Nintendo Land stage with Theme Park Versions of different series' settings, or a Monita assist trophy.

edited 18th May '14 7:25:18 PM by Elbruno

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#44202: May 18th 2014 at 7:27:45 PM

A stage of the hub, with the tower as a sky-high platform, and all the various statues and animatronics around as background events or platforms, would be nice.

No, wait, what if the animatronics moved across the stage as temporary platforms, Pokéfloats style?

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#44203: May 18th 2014 at 7:48:50 PM

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#44204: May 18th 2014 at 8:28:25 PM

I was actually wondering if anything from Nintendoland would make an appearance. There are some neat visual ideas that would make for a great stage. I don't know how long ago Sakurai would have finalized his stage choices though.

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#44205: May 18th 2014 at 8:32:43 PM

Sonic Lost World came out about a year after Nintendoland, lest we foret, and Smash For has Windy Hill.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44207: May 18th 2014 at 8:37:19 PM

The thing that takes the most time is playable characters. Stuff like stages and assist trophies can be added pretty late in development, but the playable roster would have to be finalized pretty early on.

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#44208: May 18th 2014 at 8:42:16 PM

Yeah, with stages, you probably already have most of the assets from other games. It does tend to explain why levels like Skyloft look noticeably less detailed than say, Garden of Hope.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#44209: May 18th 2014 at 8:44:30 PM

[up][up][up]That's one cool remix right there.

[up][up] Therefore playable Monita tongue

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#44210: May 18th 2014 at 8:50:41 PM

I'm a big fan of the SNES Donkey Kong Countries and I second Fawriel's question - what's so great about K. Rool? You guys are still sidestepping answering that. He's pretty generic and forgettable as a villain at the end of the day, in my opinion.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44211: May 18th 2014 at 8:52:28 PM

Because he's the primary villain (four out of six games, not counting remakes and spin-offs) of a top-tier franchise, probably. People want villains more than pretty much anything else.

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#44212: May 18th 2014 at 8:55:31 PM

I also like the various weapons and attacks he has in his boss fights. Though I'm mostly partial to his multi-function blunderbuss from DKC 2. And I suppose I just find him (and the rest of the Kremlings) charmingly funny, as enemies go.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#44213: May 18th 2014 at 8:57:26 PM

Any notable villain will do too.

Let's be honest, we have more anti-heroes/anti-villains and heroes than straight villains. Bowser and Ganondorf still count as villains. Mewtwo, even going by its first movie personality, was not actually evil or much counts as a villain. He's just an antagonist at best who has a heart.(Bowser has proven to be definitely a villain, but never made a permanent turn to the good side in any official media) Ganondorf never stopped being evil. Wolf is an anti-villain instead, so barely counts. King Dedede and Meta Knight are now heroes, so... yeah. They come close, but not close enough.

...And that's all we have. So seeing some more direct villains like K. Rool and Ridley alone would help. Even if the latter is unlikely, the former could easily be done over Dixie. Medusa is another one that would be great, but it's kind of clear by now that Sakurai is completely focused on Palutena instead(so I'd be surprised if she wasn't playable over Medusa, who should at least be an Assist Trophy). I can't think of a decent villain for the other repped series though, that could easily work. So our options are somewhat limited right now.

edited 18th May '14 9:06:07 PM by Irene

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#44214: May 18th 2014 at 8:59:41 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, but as villains go he's actually not that memorable on his own.

Bowser is basically THE original Video Game Villain; Dedede, Ganondorf, both of them are pretty well known as amazingly intricate villains in their own right.

Wolf has his own Meme.

K. Rool? He fights a bunch of monkeys on a pirate ship. Not... much you can get out of that.

edited 18th May '14 8:59:50 PM by ultimatepheer

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#44215: May 18th 2014 at 9:07:52 PM

I thought the original video game villain was the other paddle.

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#44216: May 18th 2014 at 9:09:21 PM

And on a helicarrier wielding a blunderbuss with cannon, suction, jet burner, and evil spirit settings. And in an evil lair while flying about with a copter backpack.

And in a boxing ring.

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#44217: May 18th 2014 at 9:10:07 PM

Could Cranky Kong count as a villain if he was added? Because he's literally the original video game villain.

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#44218: May 18th 2014 at 9:13:31 PM

Well, not officially. The thing is, while the Donkey Kong Country games have him basically act like that happened, Nintendo disagrees. It depends whether you take Rareware or Nintendo's word on it.

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#44219: May 18th 2014 at 9:17:27 PM

I'll take Cranky's word for it. Surely he knows.

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#44220: May 18th 2014 at 9:18:11 PM

[up][up][up] By that logic, Mario would be a villain due of Donkey Kong Jr. Also current Donkey Kong due of Mario Vs. Donkey Kong.

edited 18th May '14 9:18:29 PM by TPPR10

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#44221: May 18th 2014 at 9:19:38 PM

You know what would be really amazing? if Hades from Kid Icarus Uprising replaced Resetti as an Assist Trophy and taunted the trainers while they were battling. He'd probably be in his Holographic God form in the Background, though.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44222: May 18th 2014 at 9:19:47 PM

Irene: Nintendo of America acknowledges it, at least. On Tropical Freeze's release date, Cranky took over their twitter feed, and I'm pretty sure he talked about the original Donkey Kong.

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#44223: May 18th 2014 at 9:25:33 PM

@Bad Wolf: Did he say he was the original Donkey Kong or that the character existed? That's a world of difference. He kind of breaks the fourth wall these days, which determines it. What I mean, is acknowledging the idea isn't the same as having it be the official story and all.

That said, let's say Cranky is considered it, especially for the purposes of Smash; We already saw him once in the 75m stage by that. The other is that Giant DK is obviously based upon the original Donkey Kong from the first game. In a sense, you could say he's there. But getting to that for a moment, maybe Cranky Kong's Final Smash could be him turning into his Arcade version as is. As for what attacks, unsure. He could act akin to Giant DK with increased power and range(and weight), or throw tons of barrels and have a unique taunt. Who knows.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#44224: May 18th 2014 at 9:26:45 PM

Perhaps Medusa in her giant form would be a boss? Though that would require an underworld stage. I guess the reset bomb forest could have a Cragalanche boss.

edited 18th May '14 9:26:59 PM by Moth13

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#44225: May 18th 2014 at 9:29:03 PM

[up][up] I don't recall specifically what was said, but for some reason I think it was along the lines of "Hey, check out this old picture of me" with the first level of Donkey Kong as the picture. But it was a while ago, and I don't remember.


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