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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#43951: May 14th 2014 at 7:06:09 AM

[up]Villager has existed since the Fifth Generation (in Japan only).

WFT and Little Mac are B-list at best.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#43952: May 14th 2014 at 7:15:21 AM

A game that was a best-seller on the Wii is B list?

I'll give you Punch Out but even then it's a pretty popular game regardless.

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#43953: May 14th 2014 at 7:31:43 AM

EAD doesn't have to do all the new I Ps. They still have: Monolith Soft, Nd Cube, 1-Up Studios, Intelligent Systems, Retro Studios, R&D 1, and NST.

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43954: May 14th 2014 at 7:36:45 AM

They don't get to do much, but Next Level Games is a pretty decent bunch of devs, too.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#43955: May 14th 2014 at 8:08:25 AM

There's more to Nintendo than EAD. Just because they produce the definitive, established Nintendo titles (less Kirby) doesn't make them the end all be all. Its also difficult to qualify anything as anything as more than B-list by that standard since the games EAD typically makes are the ones that have been established and continued since Nintendo's inception. Even if EAD established a completely new title, it wouldn't really be considered as much in comparison to the mainstays until it has some time under its belt as well as a few sequels.

I wont disagree that Nintendo as a whole should produce a greater variety of titles. Specifically for the Wii U. It doesn't really matter which one of their teams makes it, though. Its all Nintendo and any new franchise has just as much potential as the next.

I also believe that a few mainstays need more titles. Specifically for the Wii U. Star Fox and F-Zero have seen very little love from papa Miyamoto.

I also want a Punch U Out!!!, but that's kind of in between.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#43956: May 14th 2014 at 10:38:13 AM

[up]Well they're not even putting in the effort. Most of the new things Nintendo is putting out are tiny 3DS eShop titles that no one cares about.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#43957: May 14th 2014 at 10:49:19 AM

More Golden Sun music would also be great. I wonder if we could get a stage for Golden Sun, even if we don't get a playable character. What do you think of the Appllo Lens station as a stage?

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#43958: May 14th 2014 at 10:58:07 AM

[up][up]Well, most of EAD's "big" franchises were established at a time when a full game was about equivalent to today's small eShop titles.

[up]That could work. If not that, I'd expect one of the Lighthouses. Although, if there's no GS character, any Golden Sun stage would probably be 3DS-exclusive, and I don't plan on getting that version...urgh.

While I don't particularly care for any of the battle themes from Golden Sun, "Set Sail! Through the Karagol Sea", "Full Speed Ahead", and Magma Rock's music stick out as songs that could get a remix.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#43959: May 14th 2014 at 11:06:22 AM

And Nintendo is putting in the effort. EAD specifically is actually a pretty small team, relatively speaking, if I recall correctly. They produce games at a pretty steady rate. The reason it feels like there's such a dearth of games is a result of third party developers avoiding the big N like the plague. Otherwise, we'd have titles to pad in between the mainstays.

The Wii U is getting full Nintendo support. Unfortunately, that's the only support its really seeing.

Oh, and those little games? They help pay for the big ones. It all goes in the same pot.

edited 14th May '14 11:07:11 AM by zeromaeus

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#43960: May 14th 2014 at 11:08:07 AM

Also, Dillon's games at least did pretty well, so saying no one cares about any of them is already incorrect.tongue

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GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#43961: May 14th 2014 at 11:19:57 AM

The only reason I didn't purchase the sequel was because I haven't even finished the first game.

My biggest problem is that I always want to do a perfect run, and if that doesn't succeed I always restart.

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#43962: May 14th 2014 at 11:32:46 AM

I missed a collectible summon in Dark Dawn, and that coupled with how the final boss seems really hard for me stopped me from finishing the game.

I may start it all over and do it again...

...but as for anything Smash-worthy, I still only see Isaac as the usable party member. And they could plausibly use Venus Lighthouse as a stage.

Mercury Lighthouse was too easy, Jupiter Lighthouse was too windy, and Mars Lighthouse didn't live up to its element until after you lit it.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#43963: May 14th 2014 at 12:04:20 PM

@zeromaeus: Exactly what do you mean by "pay for the big ones"? If Nintendo would start making new "big" franchises out of the money they get from the teeny tiny 3DS eShop franchises, I'd believe you.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#43964: May 14th 2014 at 12:34:58 PM

As in, any profit they make on the little stuff goes to the same coffers they pull their funds for future projects from. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Development costs money. Cheaply made, cheaply sold games are easy to make and can provide a small-scale boon for profits/funding.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43965: May 14th 2014 at 12:38:07 PM

Plus, it can provide testing ground for IPs- Who knows, Dillon may one day get a full retail game.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#43966: May 14th 2014 at 12:53:55 PM

I believe Pushmo was very successful. Not sure how that can be made into a full retail game, but I'm they can if they want to.

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#43967: May 14th 2014 at 1:50:38 PM

@Pulse: Then what is Nintendo doing sitting on their asses not turning these great premises into full retail games?

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43968: May 14th 2014 at 2:31:02 PM

  1. Theoretically, this is meant as testing the waters, and

  2. Nintendo tends to stagger releases for their series by at least 18 months, usually longer, between entries.

edited 14th May '14 2:31:41 PM by Pulse

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#43969: May 14th 2014 at 7:53:18 PM

The key is that Nintendo doesn't have a lot of productive capacity (something they *really* should have remedied more aggressively when they were making money hand over fist with the Wii and DS), and making *big* new games is a terrible risk for anyone nowadays. Hence the eShop experimentation, as digital can be a playground for new ideas.

Trying big new things can pay out (Sony with Uncharted) or bomb horribly (EA with Mirrors Edge). That's a gamble that Nintendo can ill-afford when they're the only one pushing their hardware.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#43972: May 14th 2014 at 11:37:26 PM

Technically, I think it is Pong, licensed by Nintendo for the Japanese market.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43973: May 14th 2014 at 11:38:13 PM

Color TV Game 15 is the greatest and most original of all consoles and does not bear any similarities to anything.

Color TV Game 15 is love. Color TV Game 15 is life.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#43974: May 14th 2014 at 11:40:41 PM

Original character do not steal.

We technically did get new information this time. There will be no representation of any games that came before 1977. Not sure how many there are, but it's something at least.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43975: May 14th 2014 at 11:42:54 PM

... Can anyone make out who's player 2 in that shot? I want to say (Mega?) Lucario, but it's zoomed way out and the model is very tinted.

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