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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#43751: May 12th 2014 at 11:55:45 AM

Bayonetta is cool and all, but she's got even more hurdles than Snake did. Neither she nor her franchise has been playable on a Nintendo console before, and probably won't before Smash 3DS comes out. So she really has a miniscule chance at best.

While I'm not a huge Pac-Man fan, I've warmed up to him recently. I wouldn't be sad if he didn't make it, but I'm fine with him getting in. As of now I consider him the second most likely character, losing to Palutena (because she has everything going for her) and beating out Chrom (who has mild competition with other Awakening/FE characters).

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43752: May 12th 2014 at 11:56:50 AM

So if Nintendo DID purchase SEGA (I don't see that happening), would that mean Sonic would no longer count as a guest fighter, just a regular fighter?

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#43753: May 12th 2014 at 11:58:00 AM

That isn't a point against her. It's just a matter of timing that she isn't playable on a Nintendo system yet. For all you know, Bayonetta 2 is slated for June or July, and Smash Bros 3DS is slated after it in July or August.

Even if Smash does come out before Bayonetta 2, it's not like we haven't had a ton of notice that Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive, and that it's coming out this year.

I don't think she has a chance in hell of being playable, but the reason you gave isn't much of one.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#43754: May 12th 2014 at 11:58:24 AM

Yeah, that's what that would mean.

I'm actually curious as to what Nintendo would do with the Blue Blur but I'd rather see them get their hands on Mega Man.

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GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#43755: May 12th 2014 at 12:01:40 PM

Fuck Sonic, I'd love to see what Nintendo would do with Shenmue.

Signatures are for lamers.
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#43756: May 12th 2014 at 12:02:34 PM

It's really hard to call Bayonetta a guest character worthy of being in Smash when her franchise hasn't been in Nintendo in the first place. That is one of her biggest problems. Bayo 2 could come out before the 3DS version, though I find that unlikely. Regardless, we're all in agreement that she's unlikely.

I don't think Sega is going to be bought up by Nintendo any time soon. They're not doing that badly last I heard.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#43757: May 12th 2014 at 12:06:01 PM

Except it's coming in the extremely near future, to the point that it will be out before one of the versions of Smash. It's not like they just announced it. We actually saw a Bayonetta 2 announcement before an official Smash Bros. one. "She's not on a Nintendo system" is a poor excuse.

"She's a Sega character, and we already have Sonic" is much better.

And Sega is not doing that well. They're basically skin-of-their-teeth-need-to-sell-Sonic-to-stay-above-water at this point. Although their parent company buying Atlus is probably alleviating a bit of the stress.

edited 12th May '14 12:06:18 PM by BadWolf21

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#43758: May 12th 2014 at 12:07:20 PM

I'm expecting a Heroes Vs. Villains trailer along with confirmations:

  • Mario Vs. Bowser

  • Link Vs. Ganondorf

  • Fox Vs. Wolf/Falco

  • Mac Vs. Donkey Kong

  • Marth Vs. Chrom

  • Kirby Vs. King Dedede/Meta Knight

  • Greninja Vs. Charizard/Pikachu

  • Luigi Vs. a Waddle Dee

  • Mega Man Vs. Sonic

  • Snake Vs. Zero Suit Samus

  • Power Suit Samus Vs. Ridley

Etc...

Edit:Sega Sammy reported huge losses last week in part due to Sonic Lost World not selling well at all. Buying Atlus might have been a bad idea for them.

edited 12th May '14 12:11:47 PM by LordofLore

WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#43759: May 12th 2014 at 12:08:18 PM

Nintendo's never going to purchase Sega. They prefer to carefully save whatever earnings they have as a fallback for when things go wrong.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#43760: May 12th 2014 at 12:14:18 PM

They recently spent $100 mil on... Something.

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#43761: May 12th 2014 at 12:15:24 PM

If Bayonetta did appear in Smash Bros, she would have appeared in a Nintendo crossover before a Sega one, which would be rather amusing.

edited 12th May '14 12:15:56 PM by GavsEvans123

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#43762: May 12th 2014 at 12:16:37 PM

[up][up] I'm pretty sure that was confirmed to be a tech purchase.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#43763: May 12th 2014 at 12:19:08 PM

If Nintendo purchased Sega, might as well go the whole way and make Nintendo vs. Sega. Alas, that probably won't happen any time soon.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#43764: May 12th 2014 at 12:21:47 PM

Basically I want this trailer but Super Smash Brothers:

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#43765: May 12th 2014 at 12:28:54 PM

I don't think Nintendo purchasing Sega is that unlikely actually. They've been struggling for a while now and Nintendo seems to have a really good relationship with Sega and Atlus as of late. If the company ever is on the market I think they'd be quick to try and snatch them up. They can't afford to let Sonic and SMT become exclusive to Sony or Microsoft. Those are very prominent franchises on their systems.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#43766: May 12th 2014 at 12:32:06 PM

Sony can't afford to let Nintendo get exclusive access to Atlus, though. They've already lost Monster Hunter to Nintendo, they definitely don't want to lose Persona as well, or their systems would take a huge sales hit in Japan.

They'd still be fine, of course, but that'd be a huge loss.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#43767: May 12th 2014 at 12:36:05 PM

It is worth noting that when Atlus was for sale, Nintendo bid a lot of money on it. I just happened Sega ended up bidding more.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#43768: May 12th 2014 at 12:40:28 PM

Actually, they bid less. SSH just happened to have a backlog of Index Co.'s debt to put forward as funding in the auction, too.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#43769: May 12th 2014 at 12:43:39 PM

Ha, imagine if Nintendo actually managed to buy Atlus.

Demi-fiend for Smash 4.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#43770: May 12th 2014 at 12:44:21 PM

I could see Persona 6+ being made for 4DS/Wii U 2 and PS 4/Vita. They would never give up the huge Playstation crowd in Japan unless they were dumb.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#43771: May 12th 2014 at 12:45:55 PM

A Nintendo handheld that displays its games in four dimensions? How... What?

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#43772: May 12th 2014 at 12:47:26 PM

Nintendo making time machines confirmed. because time is generally considered the fourth dimension

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#43773: May 12th 2014 at 12:47:55 PM

Look, Iwata thought it would change the world. It wasn't his fault that the tech didnt work the way they intended.tongue

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#43774: May 12th 2014 at 12:51:04 PM

Bad Wolf: Doesn't Nintendo have more money stored up? It would be costly but I think they could outbid Sony. They'd be fools not to if Sonic is on the line. He's one of their most prominent third party franchises.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#43775: May 12th 2014 at 12:59:20 PM

We should probably take the "Nintendo with Sega" conversation to the SMT or Sonic thread before someone comes in expecting a new reveal only to find 7+ pages of off topic talk.


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