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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#43526: May 7th 2014 at 1:58:13 AM

Honestly, I just find all these deconfirmations funny. No need to get worked up about it.

edited 7th May '14 2:00:28 AM by CassidyTheDevil

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#43527: May 7th 2014 at 1:58:32 AM

Guess I put too much faith in Sakurai having decent taste in character choices. I'll be sure not to make that mistake again.

edited 7th May '14 1:58:46 AM by paperbritt

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#43529: May 7th 2014 at 2:11:38 AM

[up][up] Really? I personally like pretty much all the choices that were made up to now. Different strokes, I suppose.

Still, maybe you need to chill. The roster of a fighting game is nothing to get worked up over.

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#43530: May 7th 2014 at 2:15:06 AM

Yeah I guess I'm still in the "seething rage" mode right now. Not helped by the fact I got an exam in the morning. I'll probably go back to liking the Villager and the Trainer after thats done and I get some actual sleep...

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43531: May 7th 2014 at 2:16:59 AM

I'm pretty sure Sakurai is not entirely responsible for the roster, either- Iwata's "recommendations" are probably a bit too forceful to really be called that, even if the official word says otherwise.

I sure said that!
Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#43532: May 7th 2014 at 2:28:26 AM

Considering the date at which the roster had to be finalised, I doubt sales had anything to do with Wonder-Red's status in the game. The decision to make, say, Greninja playable and Wonder-Red a trophy may have been made before their games were even released.

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KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#43533: May 7th 2014 at 2:37:54 AM

I'm surprised he's not in as an AT, considering there has been demand for Wonder Red.

edited 7th May '14 2:39:11 AM by KSoniK

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43534: May 7th 2014 at 2:39:31 AM

Like Phosphora, being initially revealed as a trophy doesn't necessarily preclude inclusion as an AT or stage element.

I sure said that!
KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#43535: May 7th 2014 at 2:43:00 AM

Thank goodness. If Wonder Red's not going to be playable, he definetly should be an AT.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#43536: May 7th 2014 at 3:31:05 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why

Oh well, there are always my other roster hopes.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#43537: May 7th 2014 at 3:37:44 AM

I'm not that bothered by it because I usually try to not create any big roster anticipation and just trust Nintendo to make some cool choices. It has been working pretty well so far -glances at avatar-

Ascruffydragon Since: Oct, 2013
#43538: May 7th 2014 at 4:23:05 AM

You know, I don't like how everytime a character gets "deconfirmed" there's a big deal about the game being "dead" or at least haveing a terrible roster. I try my best not to sound like this, especially since I just know I'll buy the game anyways.

But yeah, I don't quite understand. I never played the Wonderfull 101 and I never intended to (not that I'm not intereste dor anything, I've just had nothing that sold me) nor most of the others games unrepresented by Smash, but oddly enough I would've been happy to have them get represented even if it costs some additional rosters for the already represented ones.

With all the characters suggestions I personally didn't always agree on (must...not...reference a certain Metroid/DK character......) it seemed like a nice idea for me to have some more franchises thrown into the mix, I think it could help them grow popular and haveing lot of popular, varied franchises sounded like a good selling point for Nintendo.

But yet again, even if they give us a weak roster to a point where there's barely any new character reveal even for E3, even if I'm going to sound like an angry fanboy and rage, I'm still going to buy this game. Somehow I just know it.

And Sakurai did apparently say the roster wasn't his main focus, but it's usually what the Nintendo fans look for in Smash. Just look at all the dream characters list.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43539: May 7th 2014 at 4:40:15 AM

I think, at least amongst much of the English-speaking fanbase, a character only being in as an (Assist) Trophy is taken as an insult to both the character and that fan's tastes, like they're not good enough to be playable.

edited 7th May '14 4:40:33 AM by Pulse

I sure said that!
ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
For The Most Ridley-culous Cause
#43540: May 7th 2014 at 4:43:00 AM

Travis Touchdown has yet to be deconfirmed! The dream lives yet in the fanboy inside me!

Yeah, never saw why so many people thought Wonder Red was sure to be playable. His game was pretty amazing from what I've heard, but he's just not a notable enough character yet. In fact, with all of the people saying he might not get in the game at all due to copyright issues earlier in the forum, I'm just glad to see he got in.

Now watch this be a huge troll moment and that's the trophy you get after you beat Classic with Wonder Red tongue

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#43541: May 7th 2014 at 4:43:07 AM

You'd think Little Mac would've dispelled that notion by now.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#43542: May 7th 2014 at 4:49:16 AM

My big overall problem is that this was their last shot to push W101 before it (like all the other new Nintendo IP's that people complain about for this very reason) vanishes into thin air because it made no money and Nintendo is never gonna talk about it again. Yeah, Wii Fit and Animal Crossing are new IP's in Smash Bros, but they're both IP's that have already made tons of cash. This was Nintendo's last chance to give The Wonderful 101 any kind of push.

And they blew it.

nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Let's dance, boys!
#43543: May 7th 2014 at 4:52:41 AM

[up][up]That or Pit

Ah well. To be honest, I like Bayonetta more in the event that there is a Platinum Games rep, but I still feel bad for his fans...

edited 7th May '14 4:58:31 AM by nigelstack345

Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 Smash
Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#43544: May 7th 2014 at 4:58:05 AM

[up][up]Smash Bros. is usually more than an advertising vehicle, and both companies involved tend to consider games as more than the sum of their sales - if Bayonetta and Sin & Punishment could get sequels, Wonderful 102 isn't an impossibility. The IP's larval nature made playable representation unrealistic, but perhaps the situation will change come Smash '6'.

edited 7th May '14 4:59:55 AM by Null

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#43545: May 7th 2014 at 5:04:45 AM

Lest we forget, while W101 underperformed in America and Japan, it did pretty decently in Europe, especially France. There's hope yet for a sequel.

I sure said that!
nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Let's dance, boys!
#43546: May 7th 2014 at 5:05:13 AM

Given how recent 101 is, it does show that they are willing to put in recent and new IP in Smash in some degree. Just not in a playable form at the moment.

Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 Smash
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Court Dragon
#43547: May 7th 2014 at 5:42:10 AM

Hmm. Unfortunate.

Oh well.

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Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
#43548: May 7th 2014 at 6:01:37 AM

I didn't really want Wonder Red playable, so this is fine by me.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#43549: May 7th 2014 at 6:14:56 AM

Do you mean you didn't want him very much, or that you really wanted him to not get in?

Anyway, I suppose I always knew this was coming, if I'm being honest with myself. Unite Morph has size issues Ridley can only dream of, and a moveset without Unite Morph would be, just, what's the point, you know?

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#43550: May 7th 2014 at 6:18:05 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nintendo do next to no PR for W101? We never even had ads for it here in Sweden.


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