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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#42901: Apr 28th 2014 at 12:27:36 AM

I expect that the game will be balanced enough at a casual level at least that it won't matter much. I love Mewtwo as well, but I kept forgetting he's even in the game because playing him just never felt like you're actually doing anything. It's like making a marshmallow fly across the screen.

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#42902: Apr 28th 2014 at 12:28:40 AM

You mean Kirby?

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Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42903: Apr 28th 2014 at 2:21:58 AM

Random fact: Fighting someone...if you switch characters by way of Manaphy its very easy to cause the player you switched with to fall off if you time it just before the switch back. The switch back does not give you back your jumps. Easy to do...(has only done it twice)

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42904: Apr 28th 2014 at 3:18:15 AM

And now Midna's Assist Trophy status is in both games. We saw the Wii U version previously in the Direct, but this confirmed she's in both.

edited 28th Apr '14 3:44:15 AM by Irene

Shadow?
Ascruffydragon Since: Oct, 2013
#42905: Apr 28th 2014 at 5:08:22 AM

Wait, do you think that both versions are going to have some exclusives trophies? The only thing I heard was that they would be "roughly the same" so I excepted both to have the same assist trophies, but maybe some different effects from their counterparts... Hope you understand what I'm trying to get accross

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42906: Apr 28th 2014 at 5:10:39 AM

Except Fire Emblem is Nintendo's IP, and Bayonetta is not. They would have to pay Sega to put her in.

Why Sega and not Platinum? They were only the publisher for the first game.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42907: Apr 28th 2014 at 5:18:31 AM

[up][up] Yes. He said they'll be "roughly the same", implying some exclusive Assist Trophies/Poke Ball(and Master Ball possibly) Pokemon will exist.

Shadow?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#42908: Apr 28th 2014 at 5:19:03 AM

Because that's who has the rights to Bayonetta, basically. Sega had to be on the credits for the Wonderful 101, because of the Bayonetta characters in it.

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SolusLupus Since: Apr, 2013
#42909: Apr 28th 2014 at 7:28:34 AM

So because Im too lazy to actually read through the 10 to 15 or so pages that popped up over the weekend, Ill just ask: Any GS stuff?

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#42910: Apr 28th 2014 at 7:32:50 AM

No.

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SolusLupus Since: Apr, 2013
#42911: Apr 28th 2014 at 7:34:30 AM

Thank you!

Now to continue waiting...

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#42912: Apr 28th 2014 at 7:38:02 AM

Sega's in a good position with Nintendo in general (the only third party with whom relations are improving. Well, them and Tecmo-Koei <_>), and would likely be invested in Bayonetta 2's success (if the game does well, Nintendo could either buy the rights or Sega could want to make a third game themselves. Either way, B2 succeeding means more money for Sega in the future). I doubt barriers to putting Bayonetta in would be that high in that regard.

To be frank, i don't see it as likely, i just think she would be the coolest, truly left-field character they could drop in at this point. The Mr. Game and Watch for Smash For, as it were.

ParadoxialStratagem The Eccentric Electric from On Melancholy Hill Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#42913: Apr 28th 2014 at 7:54:25 AM

Quick question: Is Olimar considered a Lethal Joke Character? Because if so I never got the message. I used to practice against clusters of lvl.9 CPU computers and beat them every time, often without items.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#42914: Apr 28th 2014 at 7:59:12 AM

He's Difficult, but Awesome. Going against CPU opponents is never a good way to judge a character because players will always make different decisions than an AI will.

ParadoxialStratagem The Eccentric Electric from On Melancholy Hill Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Hiding
The Eccentric Electric
#42915: Apr 28th 2014 at 8:01:56 AM

If I didn't lag to hell, I'd be a somewhat decent player. Best I can ever get is second place.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#42916: Apr 28th 2014 at 8:03:22 AM

To be a Lethal Joke Character you have to be a joke in the first place. Olimar is a pretty capable fighter, unorthodox fighting style or not. Now Olimar without his Pikmin...

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Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#42917: Apr 28th 2014 at 8:04:09 AM

[up],[up][up][up][nja]

His Joke Character -ness is debateable, he is defenitly Difficult, but Awesome, a Lethal Joke Character usally is both.

edited 28th Apr '14 8:05:21 AM by Kiefen

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42918: Apr 28th 2014 at 8:09:24 AM

They should introduce a playable fighter with a Regenerating Health mechanic.

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Court Dragon
#42919: Apr 28th 2014 at 8:14:18 AM

Such a character would either be really overpowered (if they were capable of reliably escaping long enough to heal) or pointless (if they could not do that)

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Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#42920: Apr 28th 2014 at 9:09:35 AM

About Olimar, he has one of the best final smashes in the game-second only to Sonic's. That's not to say that he's not a good fighter in and of himself.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#42921: Apr 28th 2014 at 11:51:19 AM

[up][up][up],[up][up]As in, one that heals at will or one with an automatic heal-over-time?

The latter seems far easier to balance than the former, but that's just me.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#42922: Apr 28th 2014 at 11:59:46 AM

Auto heal-over-time, with a slow, hugely clumsy character who would need it. Maybe a mechanic for playable Dr. Eggman in a mech, that the mech would have auto-repair on shields or something. The Slaking of Smash Bros.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42923: Apr 28th 2014 at 6:35:59 PM

I like how every single move Mr. Game & Watch and Mega Man have references something in their games. More characters should do this.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#42924: Apr 28th 2014 at 6:38:53 PM

It's more feasible with them than with anyone else, though.

... Mr. Game & Watch's Up Smash should be something new, come to think of it. Like the sword from The Legend of Zelda, just so that every one of his moves is from a different game.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#42925: Apr 28th 2014 at 6:39:24 PM

Most characters don't have enough in their original games to do that. Link, for example, has a grand total of four sword basic sword moves in most games (horizontal slash, vertical slash, thrust, and spin attack).

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edited 28th Apr '14 6:39:43 PM by BadWolf21


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