I always felt like Mew was intended to be mentioned in the game through the whole planning process, but was to be something along the lines of The Unseen where it never actually appeared. That's just my opinion though.
Maybe I'm a pessimist, but all those Pac-Man designs are pretty bad IMO. Though I will say the blue ghost looks cool in that pic...
"And kung fu is a terrible way to run a company" - alliteratorI was thinking, are Miis still considered to be a lock for this game? When Sakurai said something about "customization" in SSB 4, I thought he was referring to Miis in the sense that you could define their moveset. In the Smash Direct, it looks as though he was referring to how character's movesets could be "boosted" through gameplay in the Smash Run.
I could be wrong of course, but what do you think about them?
edited 25th Apr '14 7:15:18 PM by Mistermister
I would also say that we also see Miis as BG characters in the Find Mii stage, but then I remember Alfonzo.
Still, Mii is like a 50/50 chance of being playable...
Vote. .#Bayonetta 4 SmashThey're highly likely. Mii's only couldn't use Golf Clubs without copying Peach, but they otherwise have no moves shared at the moment with any character. As for the costumes, this is a legitimate(and factual) issue that comes up. Because Sakurai said you can't change any costumes, using your own Mii is unlikely. However, he might make that a special exception, as let's be honest, Mii's are severely notable right now and they have a giant set of moves to use. The fact they're in tons of games besides Wii Sports proves already that even if Villager somehow stole one of their moves(unlikely as down below points out), it has zero effect on the multitude of games they have moves in. Something to keep in mind is that Villager's punching gloves are based upon Punch Out, not Wii Sports. It uses that particular style. Why is this notable? Because we still got Little Mac, despite Villager using his style. So even if Villager somehow had any moves, having two doesn't matter nor should it. There are way too many times where having two moves in common would even halfway matter. Nor is there any precedence that Sakurai would given a crap if they had a move or two in common, as he has many characters with similar moves regardless. A, B, or even jumping/movement styles.
The idea Villager is using their moves is pretty much a load of crock that any decent research will prove. His punching gloves hail from Punch Out, using a style specific to it. It has nothing to do with Wii Sports in any way. Punch Out is also one of the Game Cube AC games you can play, further lending it to that. The Bowling Ball is used actually how all balls are used in AC, where they can be gotten over an edge and fall on things. Wii Sports uses Bowling Balls to actually roll it into pins. You can't really "drop a ball" on people in any way there. It's a severe stretch that they have any relations. Obviously his Up B is based upon Balloon Fight, another games on the Game Cube AC itself. There was never some "fact" that Villager is stealing Mii's possible moveset, and Sakurai even supports this. What he actually said is he used items he picks up, just like his game. That applies to everything. As all of his shown moveset directly works within AC(where none of it can actually work within a single game Mii is in save only the Balloon Fight move, since a Mii can do that in a game, in the same way. The rest? Not even close)
edited 25th Apr '14 7:42:15 PM by Irene
Shadow?If you're going to get that pedantic about Villager's moves, then it's worth pointing out that no, his Up-B is not from Balloon Fight. It's from the Balloon Fight game in Nintendo Land. The hat with balloons attached is specific to that game, and has no appearance in Animal Crossing.
edited 25th Apr '14 7:45:33 PM by BadWolf21
This is also why I said that it's the only move Mii can legitimately use from Villager. The others are speculation but hardly provable(not that any proof was given either. No, "they both use the same items" does not count. How they use them is what makes it an actual shout out or reference when it comes to an action. Although phrases are different in games since specific movements during them are not always necessary. For a moveset, in order to reference something, it needs to actually move as accurate as possible to be a reference. Otherwise you might as well say Ike can't be in because he uses a sword and so does Link. That's seriously how similar Villager's Bowling Ball is to Wii Sports. Just that bad. The Punching Gloves has more evidence leading towards a PU reference than anything related to Wii Sports. Or just an AC thing in general, since gathering Boxing items is part of the regular item collection).
However, keeping in mind the move is still based upon a Balloon Fighter regardless, it still has a fair reference to the regular games available. Just unlike the boxing gloves/bowing ball, not as much to the AC games as is.
And to be frank, if you're going to keep saying it's a "fact" that Villager stole any of Mii's moves(something not even trying to be backed up, beyond the Balloon Fight reference. Which I do thank you, Bad Wolf, for properly pointing that one out), you're going to have to prove that fact instead. Because there is no proof on your part, Pulse. There's lots of evidence against it instead.
edited 25th Apr '14 8:00:30 PM by Irene
Shadow?I'm not sure how that applies to the Punch Out and Balloon Fight references. Punch Out, at least, the original, was not about customization at all. Then again, none of them are. The Bowling Ball move doesn't really come from any game beyond AC itself by how it works, so that doesn't mean much. Keep in mind I only know the BF move is from Nintendo Land. Is that game specifically customizable? No, having a Mii in it by default doesn't count. I don't count Wii Sports as that either, since the Mii's are being customized outside of it specifically. The actual game itself is just a regular Sports Games, more in the sense of how Mario Party is(minus the story mode).
Yeah, it's just Balloon Fight at best. Honestly, with Mega Man and Sonic's Up B's being almost exactly the same, with the only difference so far that Sonic's is essentially a projectile version of Rush's, I doubt one move would matter anyway. Or how similar Fox and Falco's lasers are(and assuming he comes back, might even remain unchanged). Keep in mind that unless far more of Villager's moveset is revealed to be actually similar to moves Mii uses(not highly different with the only similar point being it's the same item being used), them being in is not hard to believe currently.
As I mentioned before, two people having a sword doesn't make them similar. Even if Mii had a Bowling Ball, why wouldn't he roll it at people, making it a different move? I can see where the Punching Gloves would barely be different, but only because Little Mac pretty much does it better, so the Mii having them would be redundant, just not cause of Villager. Meanwhile, they can hit people over the head with a Golf Club, or make a projectile shot with a Tennis Racket. Truthfully, only thing I can't think of is a good Up B. I think they're in a Pilotwings game, so they could possibly fly up on a plane by temporarily going in it. Or stand on the plane while any character(maybe another Mii? Or as a joke, Tails) flies them up. It'd be one of those where you could attack out of it, like Peach or Sonic's Up B's.
edited 25th Apr '14 8:24:15 PM by Irene
Shadow?"Can not actually attack out of Peach's Up B"
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I don't recall, but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of other boss characters appearing on stages.
I really really want Ridley playable in a Super Smash Bros game, but his apparent exclusion, along with Nintendo of Japan's current apathy towards Metroid, makes me pessimistic about them ever adding in a Metroid newcomer who isn't Samus in some form.
Speaking of which, the Project M team has said that they were interested in adding in more Nintendo characters other than Roy and Mewtwo, but only up to a maximum of five. I can easily predict that they'll be swamped with popular character requests who were deconfirmed for SSB 4 once the 3DS version comes out.
edited 25th Apr '14 9:34:35 PM by Mistermister
Speaking of Nintendo Land, how's about that Nintendoland Tower stage Sakurai?
edited 25th Apr '14 9:41:55 PM by KnownUnknown
I really liked Nintendoland. It just not as fun when you're only play it all by yourself...
I got all the park attractions, but couldn't finish all those extra levels on the single-player attractions.
Too bad Nintendoland isn't a stage. Even though Super Smash Bros is already a coming together of all the Nintendo superstars, Nintendoland would be a great place to celebrate...while they beat the heck out of each other.
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I have a hypothesis that Mewtwo was created as a pun on "mutant", then they went back and named Mew. I may be way off-track with this, though.
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